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    I already know the answer to this question (get an X-ray), but thought I would get some response from your guys. Let me start by saying that my 2 year old Chocolate Female has never shown any signs of ailments. About a months ago I was letting Bailey outside in the evening and she brought me a ball (it was quite dark outside). As she was running out I lost sight of her and I heard a light yelp and she came back not wanting to put weight on her right hind leg. I immediately checked for something serious, but she started putting full weight on it very quickly and she seemed fine. ever since then, when I let her out of her kennel she does a classic "bunny hop" trot and after about a minute she's fine. After this went on for several days I rested her for about a week. she seemed fine. About 10 days ago she was playing in the house going bat-crap crazy like she does when I first let her in and she got a little off balance and jumped from a chair to a couch and I heard a little yelp and the same thing. She berifly wouldn't put wieght on it, but in a few minutes she seems fine, except for the little bunny hop trot. This dog is a little hard to read. She will jump as high as she wants and runs completely flast out kicking up dirt when I let her out to air. She shows no lack of strength or desire to run. Obviously the pessimist in me starts thinking hips, but hopeful it might be a light sprain possibly causing some inflamation. I actually would feel kind of silly telling the Vet my dog occassionally "bunny-hops" favoring one leg, but can run like a scolded rabit seemingly without any discomfort.

    Part of me wants to give it a little longer since she is not in discomfort. I am tempted to test her for HD, but I have read of dogs on here that have had HD and have no symptons. I would hate to get the HD diagnosis and lable her and it turns out to be a sprain really causing the problem and the HD would just worry me even more. She is fixed so I won't be breeding.
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    With the Bunnyhop you describe, it could be a hip, but it could also be a knee because of the sudden presentation and her activity level. The only way to know is to get her checked out. Of course, I wish you the best for your dog.

    I have known dysplastic dogs to run field trials and do quite well. Keep them lean and well muscled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arklahunter View Post
    I already know the answer to this question (get an X-ray), but thought I would get some response from your guys. Let me start by saying that my 2 year old Chocolate Female has never shown any signs of ailments. About a months ago I was letting Bailey outside in the evening and she brought me a ball (it was quite dark outside). As she was running out I lost sight of her and I heard a light yelp and she came back not wanting to put weight on her right hind leg. I immediately checked for something serious, but she started putting full weight on it very quickly and she seemed fine. ever since then, when I let her out of her kennel she does a classic "bunny hop" trot and after about a minute she's fine. After this went on for several days I rested her for about a week. she seemed fine. About 10 days ago she was playing in the house going bat-crap crazy like she does when I first let her in and she got a little off balance and jumped from a chair to a couch and I heard a little yelp and the same thing. She berifly wouldn't put wieght on it, but in a few minutes she seems fine, except for the little bunny hop trot. This dog is a little hard to read. She will jump as high as she wants and runs completely flast out kicking up dirt when I let her out to air. She shows no lack of strength or desire to run. Obviously the pessimist in me starts thinking hips, but hopeful it might be a light sprain possibly causing some inflamation. I actually would feel kind of silly telling the Vet my dog occassionally "bunny-hops" favoring one leg, but can runs like a scolded rabit.

    Part of me wants to give it a little longer since she is not in discomfort. I am tempted to test her for HD, but I have read of dogs on here that have had HD and have no symptons. I would hate to get the HD diagnosis and lable her and it turns out to be a sprain really causing the problem and the HD would just worry me even more. She is fixed so I won't be breeding.

    Wow. You have know this dog for two years. That decision is going to be yours and not mine or any others. Use the grey matter and your heart to determine the right choice for you. I wish you the best.

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    She quite lean and muscled up as well. It's quite frustrating since she is really coming into her own. Took her hunting today in a deep water hole. I thought swimming would be better for her joints whatever is going on. We killed close to our limit and she picked up every one and did her first "live action" water blind very well. I say frstrating, but it was a pleasure to watch her work and do everything I asked her to.

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    i would have the vet check her patellas (knees) as well as her hips.. even if the x-rays said dysplastic it shouldn't stop her from hunting or testing... i'd actually prefer it came back mildly dysplastic to having a luxatting patella if it was me
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    Quote Originally Posted by just me View Post
    i would have the vet check her patellas (knees) as well as her hips.. even if the x-rays said dysplastic it shouldn't stop her from hunting or testing... i'd actually prefer it came back mildly dysplastic to having a luxatting patella if it was me
    I agree. The "hopping a few steps and then being fine" sounds like a patella to me. I have a jack russell with it.

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    My dog Charlie jumped from the back porch to the ground and didn't utter a sound. After about 2 weeks of intermittent limping, I took him to the vet. Fortunately, our clinic had just acquired the services of an orthopedics specialist from Auburn. She watched him for a bit and then began asking questions. This yielded a diagnosis of an elbow that was the was the problem and it was most likely a chipped bone. She did an x-ray and found it. He was operated on the next day. I've still got the chip. Teeny little buggar but it was sure enough there.

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    We went through the very same process/progression with our chessie when he was about a year old. After our vet and an ortho specialist determined it was NOT the patella, (they were sure it was based on our description of the lameness) we did the xrays and discovered that he did in fact have a very poor hip joint. We were really torn up at the time but we followed the vets' recommendations to keep him very fit and very lean. To keep fit he kept working. Now 5 years later, he has had no problems with his hip whatsoever, is a lean mean 75#, and can hike, hunt, or retrieve all day long. If we could only teach him not to break on the honor, he'd have a few titles too! So I say go ahead and get the xrays. Always better to have a plan than a wish.
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    Sounds more like a knee issue than a hip issue to me. I only base this on personal experience. I have one with mild HD, did not pass OFFA's and at 10 1/2 he has never come up completely lame. On the other had I have an OFFA good who has messed up his knee more than once as labs are not pogo sticks but don't tell him that. He does it jumping to steal pears off the high branches after stripping the lower ones. I've been lucky as it is a sprain and like humans sprain something once the joint is more likely to suffer again.
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    Well, there you have it. The only way to know for sure is to get pictures. "Wait and see" will work, but you'll never know that way, LOL.

    I have a dog, 4, who's OFA elbow shots showed elbow dysplasia. He's never had any symptoms at all. I have a 2 year old bitch who's hip X-rays showed a bad socket on one side. She's never had any symptoms either. Other than confirming our decision not to breed (which we weren't planning on anyway) it hasn't affected us at all. We will keep them lean and fit to help avoid problems, but then again, shouldn't we ALL be trying to keep our (non-conformation) dogs lean and fit anyway? Come to think of it, the humans in the equation could benefit from that prescription as well
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