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    Im looking for opinions on the best black field champion that throws chocolate.I have a 2 1/2 year old choc pup out of Ten Bears Road Trip x Ten Bears Little Bit.She got her master hunter title at @
    25 months and is my family house dog.She should be in heat around the first of March.Thanks

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    Limited amount of Frozen semen still available from Aces High III. http://www.aceshighiii.com/ He sired this's year's #2 derby dog, Kirkwood's Ace of Lone Star, bred to a MH Chopper female. She could be high point derby dog depending on December trials. She is black but there were chocolates from the same breeding.

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    BLUE!! I love my Blue pup, she is very smart and very biddable. She is a great house dog as well; according to Kip Kemp, Blue is too.
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    Howdy throws really nice pups with the rite bitch and so does Blue. Had a Howdy girl and wouldn't mind one from blue. That may happen next year.

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    Wanting to breed her and keep a pup but don't want to be stuck with the rest.So was just wanting to find out what male is popular now so the pups will sell .I am not a breeder or trainer .Thanks for the help

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    Quote Originally Posted by young89 View Post
    Wanting to breed her and keep a pup but don't want to be stuck with the rest.So was just wanting to find out what male is popular now so the pups will sell .I am not a breeder or trainer .Thanks for the help
    Breed your dog even once- whether by accident or purpose, male or female, and you ARE a breeder. As such, you have to be prepared for getting "stuck" with pups, sometimes for months. You should also be prepared for when your buyers want to return an older and potentially unruly dog due to lack of time, effort, or caring on their part. Then you have to decide whether or not to warranty the litter on hips, elbows, and eyes, and what to do as far as reimbursing the buyer if their pup doesn't pass these tests-which means saving back quite a bit of money for up to 2 1/2 yrs. You should also start saving now for possible emergency situations, such as a C-section, and for the incidental stuff such as dew claw removal, worming medicine, shots, and vet visits for the litter. Do you have the supplies on hand to whelp/raise the litter? You have to think about the logistics of having up to a dozen or a couple more of active, noisy, always hungry, poop shooters. Depending on the timing of the litter and your location/weather, this could mean inside your house. Do you have a well fenced (as in puppy proofed) backyard? Because letting out a litter of pups to potty is a lesson in insanity as you try to keep them corralled in your yard and out of the street or neighbors yard. Do you have a great vet that you can call and will drop everything to meet you at the clinic? Even on a late Sunday night? Hopefully you won't need to make that call, but you should have a number programed into your phone just in case.

    As far as the studs available: Get a list of what's available. Then take a hard look at what your female lacks and that you want to improve, and there will be some as no dog is perfect, but as a breeder it is your job to improve on what you have so that you are benefiting the breed (notice that I didn't say "bettering the breed", as there is nothing wrong with the breed standard). Research the stud dogs on your list, matching as many of the good qualities, while also making sure that they do not have any of the same negative traits as your female. It is still a crap shoot, but the odds are better and you will at least have the satisfaction of knowing that you did what you could to produce a healthy and happy litter.

    Once that is done, steel your heart for the worst possible event: losing the female and/or the litter. It happens. More frequently than many would expect even. Other scenarios could be having a single-ton litter. Upside-you got your pup! Downside-you could have bought a pup for probably a third of what this one will cost you, and you didn't even get a choice as to which pup you want. The female could die, leaving you with ten pups to bottle feed every 2-3 hours (which will take you approximately 1 1/2 hrs to feed, than stimulate to poop, plus cleaning the nipples, bottles, making more formula, etc..) which means absolutely no sleep for at least 2- 2 1/2 weeks. Can you leave your job for that long? Do you have reliable help? Do you have the fortitude to put in all the hours and money (you will go through a ton of formula, plus the supplies, and extra vet visits!) only to have some or all the pups die despite your best efforts.

    If you think that I am trying to talk you out of breeding your female, I'm not. But I would rather know that you are a well prepared for the breeding BEFORE it takes place so that in 2-3 months we will not be hearing about a tragic end to this story. Most people do not realize the enormous expense in money, time, and work that producing a litter costs. Unfortunately, often when saddled with such expenses, those leftover pups get dumped into inappropriate homes just to "get rid of them", often with the breeder washing their hands of the pups afterwards. Sometimes pups are dumped off at a shelter, or rescue, or even out in the country. Stress makes people do stupid things, and nothing says "stress" like trying to raise a litter of pups!

    If you have been on this site for any time at all, you should also note that the people on here will not buy a pup based on the pedigree, health, or titles of the stud dog alone. And your buyers will not be seeing the stud dog when they pick their pups, just your female. So while you may clearly desire to have a pup that is out of your girl, people who have not seen your girl at her best may not. After whelping and rearing a litter of pups, she may not be in the greatest of condition, and her temperament may take a turn for the worst as she will probably be protective of her pups. Just something to think about.

    Good luck with your search for the best stud dog, keep us updated on what you decide!
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