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    In a perfect world the OP would not have lost his job and had to pull the dog from the trainer so soon. I know when I send a young dog off to a trainer there is a week or two adjustment to the new envrioment before formal training even starts. Then you don't just jump into FF, so who knows how much time this trainer had into FF. I feel for the OP, he wants the best for his dog, can't afford a trainer right now and doesn't understand why this is so complicated. My best advise is to find some experienced person who can help him hands on. This is hard to describe to a newbie over the internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    In a perfect world the OP would not have lost his job and had to pull the dog from the trainer so soon. I know when I send a young dog off to a trainer there is a week or two adjustment to the new envrioment before formal training even starts. Then you don't just jump into FF, so who knows how much time this trainer had into FF. I feel for the OP, he wants the best for his dog, can't afford a trainer right now and doesn't understand why this is so complicated. My best advise is to find some experienced person who can help him hands on. This is hard to describe to a newbie over the internet.
    This is also some good advise.
    I think that's why I chime in. I can tell that the OP wants the best for his dog and needs help. I can't see in only one month,that the dog can be in this stage ( FF) of training.

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    welcome to the New and improved "PEANUTTIER" RTF!!!
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    Morphsuit; If you aren't confused, then you should be!!
    The best thing you can do is to quit trying to sift through all the varied advice you are getting here on the internet.
    Dog training is a hands on discipline. You can't train a dog over the phone or on the computer. Be wary of those who say you can

    Many of these posters need to be muzzled; unfortunately our best muzzlers have been exiled.

    Do yourself & your dog a favor and get with someone that is knowledgeable and experienced. Call the pro who the dog was started by, and get his input
    If you need some guidance on what clubs, reputable pros or knowledgeable people are in Okla give me a call 660 886 6538

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh345 View Post
    i'd call your trainer and ask some pointed questions. If he went through a month of ff with a "professional trainer" and is "locking up" when he said "fetch"; then i would question why the trainer ever moved on from ear pinch and was now using the collar in a presumed collar fetch scenario.

    If that dog is balking or locking up on fetch command, then he probably didn't fully understand the command and ear pinch pressure; and how to deal with it. If that is so he certainly shouldn't have been moved on to collar pressure imho
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    I sympathize with you re your job loss. Definitely not a time you can be dishing out $ for dog training or expensive videos. Is there anyone in your club that would work with you 1:1 if you approached them? FF was the most confusing thing to me as newbie, and only thing I got personal help with. A club member showed me a step with my dog, I trained that step, then went back in few days, showed her what we could do, and she gave me next step. You will get so many options here from great trainers, but they can't see your dog or your technique. Good luck with the dog and the job situation, I'm sure the stress you're under isn't helping improve your dog time

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    I've heard a lot of trainer bashing and owner bashing no one has volunteered to help out and finish the job for him at no charge.....It is better to give ( of ones self ) than to receive ( from some one who can't pay) I'm told....I wish I was closer ....Steve S
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve schreiner View Post
    I've heard a lot of trainer bashing and owner bashing no one has volunteered to help out and finish the job for him at no charge.....It is better to give ( of ones self ) than to receive ( from some one who can't pay) I'm told....I wish I was closer ....Steve S
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    Steve, See post
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