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    Quote Originally Posted by 3blackdogs View Post
    Alain's breeding program has Sherwin's "Ralph" as one of the foundation dogs. FC AFC (and NRC finalist) Ralph was a large, gorgeous and immensely talented dog with a wonderful personality. I saw a lot of him when was in Wisconsin, and just absolutely loved him. (The Ralph son that was referenced earlier is Aragon, who looks like a yellow "Ralph", and is now with Sargenti, I believe.)
    His elbows and leg bones are the size of a well fed steer. Cool looking dog. Easily over 100lbs and working at AA level competently.

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    Sally Koepke had a big boy named Vinnie who was very impressive.

    I don't know what became of him, but she ran him on the tune up setup at Handjem when I was there June 2009. He was big, cool, and ran those things like he'd been trained on them by Sally. (she had just picked him up from the trainer - Van Engen, perhaps, and I believe Sally and he were running them cold)

    Vinnie was the biggest field labrador I'd ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Vinnie was the biggest field labrador I'd ever seen.
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    Bigger than your BIG yellow??? I would have sworn that dog was part Dane!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Vinnie was the biggest field labrador I'd ever seen.
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    Bigger than your BIG yellow??? I would have sworn that dog was part Dane!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Snows View Post
    Bigger than your BIG yellow??? I would have sworn that dog was part Dane!!
    Champ was a peanut compared to Vinnie! Vinnie was huge.
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    I am pretty sure Vinny is retired living with Sally.....he was definately impressively big.

    Aragon indeed is much like Ralph in many ways. Ralph became Sherwins favourite dog for sure. Aragon I am sure is at least 15lbs bigger than Ralph was and extremely tallented for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CodyC View Post
    I clearly said they have their place....

    I am not taking away from smaller dogs at all. I have had one that was a stout 60 lbs and she did fine.

    But honestly, hunting big water in rough conditions, retrieving geese and sometimes tundra swans, I would prefer a bigger dog. They are better equipped for it.
    I guess we need to know what you mean by bigger. My 70 pound Golden excels in tough conditions retrieving Tundra Swans, that might be something a 45 lb female couldn't do, though I wouldn't bet on it. I was hung up on size after I fell in love with my first Golden who happened to weigh 85#s, then I got a 74 lb Golden out of FC-AFC parents who was lights out a better retriever. He's the dog in my avatar. Then Yoda came along, full grown 63 pounds and the best hunting dog I have ever owned or seen. By this time I say my favorite size or color is whatever dog I have. There is so much more that goes into being a great dog, size is way down on the list. I totally get it that you prefer bigger dogs, no way to argue with a preference, I will dispute your statement that they are better equipped. I don't think size matters at all.

    Here's 70lb Gus with his Swan...
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    Those of you that had these big boys, do you remember how much they weighed at 9 months? I have a Male that is 85 lbs and he just turned 9 months the other day. I am trying to get an idea of what he is going to be mature. He is very solid and many people don't believe he weighs that much. He is very lean and muscular. His dad was 115 but his mom was only about 75.

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    Our recent breeding - sire is 78 lbs, dam is 71 lbs .... Yesterday was 6 month birthday and he weighed 70 lbs! Not exactly the size of pup we were expecting! As someone mentioned earlier you can't always plan for size. Lean and muscular ... I just hope we have a box on the truck big enough for him!! LOL!
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    Now see how nice this tread has gotten once we thinned out all the big dog haters. Again I want to thank everyone for your help. We have had internet issues at work the last two days but I will be getting back with some of you, returning pm, emails, and or calls. I think I am on the right track, you guys have pointed me to a few people who breed the kind of labs I am looking for and I feel like I am much closer to finding our family our next puppy.

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