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    Is your dog collar wise? Is that a concern of yours? If so, what did you do to prevent it?

    I’m following Fowl Dawgs and it’s going really well. We’re to the E collar introduction and he does not mention much about that. I bought a Tri-Tronics and there is a fair amount in the manual about preventing the dog form becoming collar wise.

    On a side note, I ordered Lardy’s E collar video…far too many people recommend it and it seems like an area where my mistakes might not be as forgiven. Fowl Dogs is good but it moves fast and I want some more info.

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    I think every dog is collar wise to one degree or another, but you mitigate that by being super consistent in training to build good habits. Hold consistently high standards in training, be willing to give up an entry fee to pick up your dog in a test, and the dog will be more consistent at trials. You don't want a dog to think about a decision, then weigh the consequences, you want a dog that through repetition, is so accustomed to doing it a certain way (the right way), that he or she just acts without thinking in the right manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    I think every dog is collar wise to one degree or another, but you mitigate that by being super consistent in training to build good habits. Hold consistently high standards in training, be willing to give up an entry fee to pick up your dog in a test, and the dog will be more consistent at trials. You don't want a dog to think about a decision, then weigh the consequences, you want a dog that through repetition, is so accustomed to doing it a certain way (the right way), that he or she just acts without thinking in the right manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    I think every dog is collar wise to one degree or another, but you mitigate that by being super consistent in training to build good habits. Hold consistently high standards in training, be willing to give up an entry fee to pick up your dog in a test, and the dog will be more consistent at trials. You don't want a dog to think about a decision, then weigh the consequences, you want a dog that through repetition, is so accustomed to doing it a certain way (the right way), that he or she just acts without thinking in the right manner.

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    Agreed. Being collar wise is only one manifestation of being "situation wise". Dogs are situational learners, and are sensitive to triggers in their environment. The presence of an e-collar becomes a trigger, but that doesn't mean it has to be a detriment. Be deadly consistent, as John has suggested. Then the mere presence of a trigger doesn't become a problem. It's just there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by john robinson View Post
    i think every dog is collar wise to one degree or another, but you mitigate that by being super consistent in training to build good habits. Hold consistently high standards in training, be willing to give up an entry fee to pick up your dog in a test, and the dog will be more consistent at trials. You don't want a dog to think about a decision, then weigh the consequences, you want a dog that through repetition, is so accustomed to doing it a certain way (the right way), that he or she just acts without thinking in the right manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Robinson View Post
    I think every dog is collar wise to one degree or another, but you mitigate that by being super consistent in training to build good habits. Hold consistently high standards in training, be willing to give up an entry fee to pick up your dog in a test, and the dog will be more consistent at trials. You don't want a dog to think about a decision, then weigh the consequences, you want a dog that through repetition, is so accustomed to doing it a certain way (the right way), that he or she just acts without thinking in the right manner.

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    What John said.

    If you think about it, a collar wise dog...one that doesn't make a mistake when the collar is on...is telling you it knows *exactly* what it is supposed to do. This means the dog also knows what is expected whether the collar is worn or not, so if you have to make a manual correction when there's no collar, the dog knows exactly what the correction is about.
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