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    Is it typical to see baskets/launchers used?
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    yes to both...or they sometimes used a box with a servo controlled lid that opens as the dog gets close.
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    That's disappointing.
    I can't see how that can not continue to influence the regular Upland Hunts. Am I the only one who thinks the use of baskets or launchers makes a mockery of a flushing dog test?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Flint View Post
    That's disappointing.
    I can't see how that can not continue to influence the regular Upland Hunts. Am I the only one who thinks the use of baskets or launchers makes a mockery of a flushing dog test?
    Disappointing yes but it may be for a reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Flint View Post
    Am I the only one who thinks the use of baskets or launchers makes a mockery of a flushing dog test?
    I thought you meant used by the shaggers... Not good, regardless of "having a reason." Next question: What if you're - sorry, What if your pro - is running a pointing Lab?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crackerd View Post
    I thought you meant used by the shaggers... Not good, regardless of "having a reason." Next question: What if you're - sorry, What if your pro - is running a pointing Lab?

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    If it wasn't a pointing lab when you started, it likely will be afterward.
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    Waste of time. Waste of birds.

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    No, it is no longer typical to see baskets or launchers at the Grand. The birds are now placed in remote release boxes. At some distance, the box lid is remotely opened. The bird simply steps out of the box and walks away into the cover,..well before the dog reaches the area. Usually, the bird is a significant distance from the box. The dogs truly flush the bird. The bird is not "bumped" from a basket, and it is not launched from a launching devise. Often, when chukars are used, the bird is simply released into the cover.
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    What happens if the dog catches the bird?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    What happens if the dog catches the bird?
    Why, if it were the Great Britain Grand, yer out! Pegging ain't cricket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dick Jennings View Post
    No, it is no longer typical to see baskets or launchers at the Grand. The birds are now placed in remote release boxes. At some distance, the box lid is remotely opened. The bird simply steps out of the box and walks away into the cover,..well before the dog reaches the area.
    Now that's a novel idea - Dave, wonder if the ESS R&D committee tried it on for size this week at the NC over in Cambridge? Using say muscovy ducks?

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