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    I've been wasting my money on tequila apparently

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmilner View Post
    My wife is one of those positive trainers. She let me learn that me washing dishes causes her clothes to fall off.
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    I've been wasting my money on tequila apparently /Paul
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    what the heck /paul, that ain't a Rush song ! !
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigcasinoGator View Post
    If my dog likes to fetch is it necessary to force fetch?
    Your dog will retrieve just about anything. Your dog is doing just about everything it can to show you. So now the question becomes “Are you happy with what your dog is doing?” If the answer is yes, then all is good, but if something does happen in the future and things change because of who knows…Will you still be happy or ponder what you need to do, if that arises, if things do change?. Lastly...Always is not a good word to use, but in this case, try and keep an open mind and do what is best for you and fido, if that situation does comes up.

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    Everyone should make their own decisions as to the method they use in the training of their dogs. However, as professional trainer, I have no intention of ever teaching my clients or writing articles on how to train a mediocre hunting or trial dog.
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    Here is a great gundog that was not put through force fetch. http://youtu.be/u5wu3VCKrpM
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    I have a basin wrench in my tool box. I have needed it once in my life (so far - knock on wood), and it was invaluable on the occasion I needed it. I hope I never need it again, but if a situation arises in the future where I need it then I have it and I know what to do with it to correct the problem.

    I don't know much about this dog training thing, but I am convinced that I would want to have the FF tool in my toolbox so it would be just like that basin wrench. I may never need it, but if I ever do, it will be invaluable. And keep in mind that this is referring only to a refusal, and says nothing of the other benefits of FF. Do you absolutely have to have it to have a retriever that retrieves birds? Absolutely not. But why wouldn't you want the tool?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Maybe I should try doing more dishes.
    If Sherry asked me to do the dishes, vacuum the carpet and do the windows, I would not hesitate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RookieTrainer View Post
    I have a basin wrench in my tool box. I have needed it once in my life (so far - knock on wood), and it was invaluable on the occasion I needed it. I hope I never need it again, but if a situation arises in the future where I need it then I have it and I know what to do with it to correct the problem.

    I don't know much about this dog training thing, but I am convinced that I would want to have the FF tool in my toolbox so it would be just like that basin wrench. I may never need it, but if I ever do, it will be invaluable. And keep in mind that this is referring only to a refusal, and says nothing of the other benefits of FF. Do you absolutely have to have it to have a retriever that retrieves birds? Absolutely not. But why wouldn't you want the tool?
    Oh boy, someone is going to assume you are using the basin wrench for FF.
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    With another thread on the main page the poster is having trouble getting his dog to enter cold water for a retrieve. Without FF as a basis for water force work , where do you go from there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shawninthesticks View Post
    With another thread on the main page the poster is having trouble getting his dog to enter cold water for a retrieve. Without FF as a basis for water force work , where do you go from there?
    That's a better question than many people are willing to ask.

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