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  • Number of jams

    5 7.46%
  • completion ratio

    4 5.97%
  • # of wins

    12 17.91%
  • points per trial

    40 59.70%
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Thread: Who is top derby dog??????

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    Senior Member bmiles's Avatar
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    Default Who is top derby dog??????

    The other thread about the points tie breaker got me thinking. This is not meant to take credit away from either dog. Both dogs obviously have racked up the points. How do you think ties should be broken when you have dogs with equal points. You can not have two champions.




    Here are the stats for this years top two derby dogs.









    Starts Maggie 31 Lexie 36

    finishes Maggie 28 Lexie 31

    completion ratio Maggie 90% Lexie 86%

    wins Maggie 12 Lexie 10

    points per trail avg. Maggie 2.48 Lexie 2.14

    reserve jams Maggie 2 Lexie 1

    jams Maggie 4 Lexie 7







    These are just the stats to let them speak for themselves. Please share in the poll to tell how you think the top derby dog should be chose. What should we use.




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    I THINK UNDER SOME CIRCUMSTANCES THERE CAN BE TWO HIGH QUALITY TIED DERBY
    HIGH POINT CHAMPIONS.

    LEAVE WELL ENOUGH ALONE!!

    Bill Connor

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    Didn't this happen a couple years ago too?
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    IMHDAO, points per start tells me most about the quality of the dog. Otherwise, you're just measuring wallet thickness.-Paul
    there's no good reason to fatten up a retriever.

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    Since the tiebreaker is for the Purina Award only it would seem to be their perogative to use whatever method Ralston Purina deems appropriate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    Since the tiebreaker is for the Purina Award only it would seem to be their perogative to use whatever method Ralston Purina deems appropriate.
    What he said...it's their trophy/award, so what ever they deem appropriate...I would say any dog who is tied to be a top derby dog of the year is pretty special....thick wallet of the owner or not.
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    Many thick wallets with a few Derby points.
    That's the beauty of the game, money helps, but it isn't just money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lash View Post
    Many thick wallets with a few Derby points.
    That's the beauty of the game, money helps, but it isn't just money.
    Hypothetical: So 1 dog has 30 points in 10 starts and another has 40 points in 25 starts. Would you rather have the 30 point dog or the 40 point dog? Hmmmmm?
    there's no good reason to fatten up a retriever.

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    Not nearly enough info in that scenario, Paul. We don't know the quality of dogs they ran against, entry size, tests that were thrown, & etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul young View Post
    Hypothetical: So 1 dog has 30 points in 10 starts and another has 40 points in 25 starts. Would you rather have the 30 point dog or the 40 point dog? Hmmmmm?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Hawkes View Post
    Not nearly enough info in that scenario, Paul. We don't know the quality of dogs they ran against, entry size, tests that were thrown, & etc.
    I agree with Jacob. I would expand his etc with you don't know how well either dog handles, how they will do with retired guns or more complex marking setups, etc. Also, its a separate question from which dog is 'High point derby dog'.
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