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    Ok so I finished up force fetch a couple weeks ago and have been working on marks with bumpers since. Well today I started with ducks and he wants to drop them about 5 feet from me and acts really confused when I apply pressure when giving the force command he will mouth the bird but will not pick it up. I went through ff using a buck and bumper before force fetch he did had retrieved dead and live pigeons had very little exposure to ducks. Do I need to go back to the table and teach hold a force again with a bird now or what? This is my first dog to train my buddy that works for a pro has been helping me through ff but I won't be able to get up to their place for a week or so.

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    Did you do walking ff, stick fetch and ecollar fetch?

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    You said you FINISHED UP, FF. IMO you need to go back to the table and use birds.
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    My dog did the same thing, mostly coming out of water. What my pro told me was to enforce "here". I didn't use pressure because most of the time the collar would make him drop the bird anyway. When he was returning I would just stay on the whistle or repeat the here command. It was a simple fix for me but I also had no question that he was FF throughly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Paye View Post
    You said you FINISHED UP, FF. IMO you need to go back to the table and use birds.
    That is what I would do. Bet it don't take long. Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustin Maddux View Post
    My dog did the same thing, mostly coming out of water. What my pro told me was to enforce "here". I didn't use pressure because most of the time the collar would make him drop the bird anyway. When he was returning I would just stay on the whistle or repeat the here command. It was a simple fix for me but I also had no question that he was FF throughly.
    This too. Gives them something else to do and think about and keeps them moving toward you. Don

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wayne Nutt View Post
    Did you do walking ff, stick fetch and ecollar fetch?

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    What Wayne said. Sounds like he isn't collar fetched, or doesn't take the pressure of it well.
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    Any dog that has been through a conditioned retrieve process that picks up the retrieve object but drops before delivery to hand is in violation of the "HOLD" command. "Hold" means hold firmly but lightly ,don't roll, chew or chop,and don't let go until I give the que or verbal command to give the object to me.What I would do is go back to the retrieving buck or bumpers and do walking "Hold". Let's fix the hole in the foundation before putting up the walls!After you get through this go through the force fetch process using frozen,then thawed,then fresh killed birds . I do pigeons,pheasants and ducks.

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    Thanks for all the replies yes I did walking fetch and collar fetch but no stick fetch. He does everything great with the bumper I will go back and repeat the process with the bird and see how it goes thanks again Merry Christmas

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    Ff is never done. Teach the dog with birds

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