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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogs4life View Post
    I've talked to two trainers so far one says reinforce hold with collar which obviously doesn't work and the other says to switch bumpers and then pretty much EVERYBODY else says see the vet and hold off.
    My suggestion is not to talk with someone and come away with a quick fix step.

    My my suggestion is to physically work with someone experienced who can evaluate where you guys are and what's going on and give live meaningful input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    My suggestion is not to talk with someone and come away with a quick fix step.

    My my suggestion is to physically work with someone experienced who can evaluate where you guys are and what's going on and give live meaningful input.
    Well I'm waiting to see what the vet says first. Today his gums are very dark red

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    I think, personally, I'd be more concerned with the dogs mouth & muzzle by the looks of the nasty sores in the picture. But that's just me.
    I'm very concerned with that. That's why we're gonna to the vet tomorrow ASAP. I really don't know what the sores are from maybe switching dog foods? If its not the gums then that will be a whole different situation that I will probably try and go to a trainer and see what's going on. Closest gainer to me is 2 hours away.

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    Could it be peridontal disease? Could be something simple like just needing his teeth cleaned.

    Let us know what the vet says!
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    Could be tick borne diseases and God knows what else
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    I once read in a retriever book, a story about a FF'd dog that suddenly started holding the bumper very gingerly. It actually turned out to be a lower jaw injury. The guy went to smaller bumpers after the dog healed. Can't remember the title off hand. Good Luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogs4life View Post
    Also, what's your opinion on just throwing some soft fun bumpers around while we figure this out?
    EDIT - The below response is something that I was working on several hours ago. It was sitting on my iPad unsent. Even though I've already posted something, I figured maybe there's a grain of value below, maybe.

    Good luck and I 'm glad your dog will see the vet tomorrow. Chris


    I can not evaluate what is happening since I can not see anything live.

    My my opinion is that you are searching for a suggestion that will give you the fix. My concern is that you can create confusion, frustration and generally degrade good training progress by seeking quick answers from random contributors that have not seen what's happening.

    Nothing is is lost by waiting til the doc evaluates health.

    Who knows? There is a chance that your dog tried hard to do the right thing and somehow hurt his mouth. Maybe he hammered down on a rock or root and it hurt him and confused him. If that's the case, you will need to work through it. That is only one of an endless number do possibilities though.

    Good luck. Be fair, be patient, be reasonable.

    You only get one chance to do it right the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    Could be tick borne diseases and God knows what else
    I was looking at the teeth in the picture a couple pages back.

    Let's hope the OP really brings the dog to vet and it is ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granddaddy View Post
    Any time your dog has a physical condition that interferes with training or is exacerbated by the training you should back off until the condition clears.
    This is the first response to the OP. Imho it answered the OP completely and succinctly.
    I refuse to read the entire thread, but am always amazed how they can go on forever; when IMHO the question has been answered as well as possible

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    Snow in second picture? Frozen bumpers maybe causing irritation making them hard to hold. Vet check would still be number one on my list.
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