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    It is so hard to get judges line up for upcoming tests. There is so much confusion about the regulations that many don't realize that they are not current with their qualifications to continue judging.

    Our club put on an AKC Judges Seminar this past summer, not heavily attended, and now suddenly there are many of our Texas judges that need one. Obviously it is too late for any club to get one in before the Spring tests begin. So the pool gets even more shallow.

    Ever since the judges tests were put into effect, there are fewer and fewer seminars being given, therefor fewer new judges being put on the list, because those to run the clubs don't need a seminar, therefore they don't bother to schedule one.

    Everyone wants to play the game but fewer and fewer are helping to keep the judging pool refreshed.
    Are we going to allow our sport to collapse because of lack of new and current judges?

    Getting off my soap box for now, but if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.
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    Interesting..

    I am curious!

    What qualifications are needed to Judge AKC tests?

    Just the cliff Notes please...... Hard for some of us to decipher the rule book.


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    Is it also true that if a club sponsors a seminar there is a minimum requirement for attendees??? So if the club gets say 19 and the cut off is 20 they have to cancel??

    Those are random numbers.. I don't know the actual numbers or even if this is the case...


    But if it is indeed the case I would think that the governing body (AKC) may carry some of the responsibility....

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    It is complicated....

    To maintain your judging status you must take a second seminar within 3 years of the first one or must have accumulated 6 master judging points. If you have had 2 seminars or have judged master at least 6 times, you must take and pass the open book judges test with a score of 90 or above. Once you have taken the test, you must take it again every 4 years to remain eligible to judge.

    You also must be active in the sport by qualifying a dog at least every 7 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rnd View Post
    Is it also true that if a club sponsors a seminar there is a minimum requirement for attendees??? So if the club gets say 19 and the cut off is 20 they have to cancel??

    Those are random numbers.. I don't know the actual numbers or even if this is the case...


    But if it is indeed the case I would think that the governing body (AKC) may carry some of the responsibility....

    Randy
    Yes, there is a minimum. The sponsoring club can opt to pay for empty seats.

    In Texas there used to be at least one judges seminar held per year and they were always well attended. Since the judges test policy came in, many who are in charge of their clubs don't need a seminar, so they don't push to sponsor one or even spread the word when one is offered.

    This doesn't bode well for the future of the sport.
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    Hey Mike

    The Fort Collins Retriever Club is hosting a seminar on February 22. I was thinking of attending - just for curiosity sake. Why don't you go, too?

    Here is the information I received:

    Fort Collins Retriever Club will be hosting an AKC Hunt Test Seminar on Saturday February 22, 2014 with Jerry Mann @ Sportsman Warehouse,
    1675 Rocky Mountain Avenue, Loveland, Co 80538 970-461-5000. If you have any questions regarding the Seminar, please contact Jeff Schoonover @ 970-227-1284
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    But to become a judge you must also apprentice at each level, right? It's not simple to become a judge...I wished I had done it long ago when I first got involved, because of how hard it is now I won't. I don't run HTs in general but I do help with putting one on for my club and enter it for fun, too.

    it would be nice to be able to fast track judges who have experience...I find it funny that I'm not qualified to judge at least a Junior stake...oh well.
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    I do not intend to judge. But I am curious as to how hunt tests are judged
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    I dont think I would Judge either,,At least not till we accomplish something..

    It would be interesting though to attend a seminar so as to understand the comment coming from behind me,, "wheres the popcorn" when we are running..

    I'll go with you Ted,, as long as you promise to keep me in line...

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    It costs the club $500 per seminar which goes to AKC for the Reps expenses. So the club needs to set a cost per seat prior to the event and then advertise it in the hope they break even. In the case where we did not cover our costs we felt it was a small price to seed the judges pool.

    You do need to apprentice first and attend your first seminar. They also have additional requirements that the clubs are to evaluate of a potential judge and those requirements are not under the AKC's jurisdiction. Fore instance, they put a rule in that requires a Master judge to have handled and qualified a dog in that level within a 7 year period. This is something the AKC will not track but has placed this upon the Club to validate.
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