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    Hopefully Garmin is soliciting input from dog people that use their products when making changes. I think there is room for improvement on the sport models and the pro controls and not against change or improvements. I even have a suggestion or two on the pro series collars.
    On the pro control I use the beep to get puppies to look out in the field to start with then use it if they need help on a mark, works great. A real duck sound on the Dogtra is good for hunt testers but I hate it for they way I use it because it just keeps quacking and distracts a young pup too much when using it when pup needs help. A single quack for each push of the button would be great. I sent TT a suggestion on the pro series collar a long time ago but don't know if it had any affect. I HATE the toggle switch. I have the 200 multi dog and always accidentally switching collars and getting a yip from a dog in the truck. On the 500 I would hate the toggle to switch from continuous to momentary that is why I buy the 200 instead of the 500. I suggested a slide switch on the side or the back instead of the toggle.
    Im sure Garmin has people that know what they are doing. Hopefully they are asking people that use their products daily, I would if I were them.

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    Wayne, did you get the answers you're looking for? Since you started the thread.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Here's what's ironic Paul. Just last night, I forwarded the email of an RTF member asking me respectfully to see if I can get some sort of indication or intention from TriTronics for what the future holds for the Pro Series collars. I will send a follow up note based upon what you wrote above.

    Frankly, Paul, I am less motivated to spend my efforts to try to garner meaningful information for RTF from TriTronics folks, when this sort of junk is getting repeatedly brought up on the board. (by you)

    I'm going to suggest that you spend your energy focusing on some positive stuff. There is no productive reason for you to hang on to this silly stuff that happened months ago.

    Happy New Year to you. Please let this baggage go.

    You deserve to be happy with the products you use to train your dogs. We all do. I hope you find happiness.

    Thanks, Chris
    So, what your saying is that Happy is to blame for anything negative said about Tri-Tronics? A conspiracy? I'm not that inf.....uggg.. Don't want to use the word..... Lighten up. I've said nothing but good things about TT's product line. I've done nothing but endorse TT products. That isn't the case with the other folks here.

    What happened a few months ago was quite humorous. It was laughable to make the assertion Happy was responsible because I said, "sign up and get free shirts". If you think I'm upset about you, TT or the reaction...you are very wrong in your assumption. And when I say, I hope these are being forwarded, you also took that the wrong way too. I hope TT is forwarded to the Mega-Swirl at Garmin. As others stated here, the only way our training community will be heard is to be loud and direct with our opinions about Garmin making changes.

    If you had energy you wanted to focus, certainly don't bother with me. What could be helpful is finding someone who would answer all of these questions even the IC folks have brought up. If the questions were being answered there wouldn't be a new TT thread popping up twice a week. And I'm not mad. Furthest from it. I can actually almost find your reply to me humorous as I did with the fact TT emailed you about the aforementioned comment.

    Why is this place so danged up tight? I was PM'd about this and the person said, "RTF used to be like a good tailgate chat at a trial, now it's become more like a corporate dinner party"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul "Happy" Gilmore View Post
    So, what your saying is that Happy is to blame for anything negative said about Tri-Tronics? A conspiracy? I'm not that inf.....uggg.. Don't want to use the word..... Lighten up. I've said nothing but good things about TT's product line. I've done nothing but endorse TT products. That isn't the case with the other folks here.

    What happened a few months ago was quite humorous. It was laughable to make the assertion Happy was responsible because I said, "sign up and get free shirts". If you think I'm upset about you, TT or the reaction...you are very wrong in your assumption. And when I say, I hope these are being forwarded, you also took that the wrong way too. I hope TT is forwarded to the Mega-Swirl at Garmin. As others stated here, the only way our training community will be heard is to be loud and direct with our opinions about Garmin making changes.

    If you had energy you wanted to focus, certainly don't bother with me. What could be helpful is finding someone who would answer all of these questions even the IC folks have brought up. If the questions were being answered there wouldn't be a new TT thread popping up twice a week. And I'm not mad. Furthest from it. I can actually almost find your reply to me humorous as I did with the fact TT emailed you about the aforementioned comment.

    Why is this place so danged up tight? I was PM'd about this and the person said, "RTF used to be like a good tailgate chat at a trial, now it's become more like a corporate dinner party"..
    I'm not even sure why you started this thread? Oh wait....

    /Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul "Happy" Gilmore View Post
    So, what your saying is that Happy is to blame for anything negative said about Tri-Tronics? A conspiracy? I'm not that inf.....uggg.. Don't want to use the word..... Lighten up. I've said nothing but good things about TT's product line. I've done nothing but endorse TT products. That isn't the case with the other folks here.

    What happened a few months ago was quite humorous. It was laughable to make the assertion Happy was responsible because I said, "sign up and get free shirts". If you think I'm upset about you, TT or the reaction...you are very wrong in your assumption. And when I say, I hope these are being forwarded, you also took that the wrong way too. I hope TT is forwarded to the Mega-Swirl at Garmin. As others stated here, the only way our training community will be heard is to be loud and direct with our opinions about Garmin making changes.

    If you had energy you wanted to focus, certainly don't bother with me. What could be helpful is finding someone who would answer all of these questions even the IC folks have brought up. If the questions were being answered there wouldn't be a new TT thread popping up twice a week. And I'm not mad. Furthest from it. I can actually almost find your reply to me humorous as I did with the fact TT emailed you about the aforementioned comment.

    Why is this place so danged up tight? I was PM'd about this and the person said, "RTF used to be like a good tailgate chat at a trial, now it's become more like a corporate dinner party"..
    Paul,

    Please stop the discussion on RTF about the Influentials Club posts that you wrote, the thread that was taken down, etc.

    Thanks, Chris
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    Ok, the tire tracks from that bus have been washed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Paul,

    Please stop the discussion on RTF about the Influentials Club posts that you wrote, the thread that was taken down, etc.

    Thanks, Chris
    Probably aught to take this one down, since it actually has negative comments about the IC club. Love my hats...

    /Paul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gun_Dog2002 View Post
    Probably aught to take this one down, since it actually has negative comments about the IC club. Love my hats...

    /Paul
    Hey Paul (other Paul),

    You were another one that I spent some time trying to politely ask via phone and private messages to please stop the comments about the incident.

    Guys, if I wanted this whole thing to be public, I'd have made it public.

    There is plenty of material to interject your comedic contributions.

    Please stop the cracks about this topic.

    Thank you.

    Chris
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    Sorry Chris, I don't really remebered that and we haven't talked in ages. As TT IC member and dealer I welcome feedback on the training tools I recommend to clients. For the past 20 years I've used TT collars, they have been the best on the market! Never sold or recommended anything else. It just appears you don't like negative comments regarding their programs or products and there has been some pretty negative feedback starting with the original poster. I will say I do two e collar seminars a year, one for ODFW, and I have no reason to switch products. As long as it's best on the market, I will use it.

    /Paul
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    TT/Garmin in my opinion has went way beyond others in the Industry. (Retrieving, Tracking, Upland) Their support and generosity has been second to none which has earned my trust and support. Great Product.

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