I know I come from the "caveman era" and only judge a few trials a year now, but, still train my dogs and try to stay in touch with the contemporary sets-ups and what good dogs can do in field trials. Having said that years ago when I got my first eight points in the 1980's (AKC doesn't even keep track) everyone I judged with at that time had judged a National event. How that worked out I don't know but I learned a lot. I also trained with a fellow that had about 85 all-age points judging so that helped. What really helped me as a judge was "paying my dues" as it was called by judging numerous minor stakes before getting my first point at the Madison Retriever Club. Now those "dues " went back" to the late 1960's in sanction trials , until my first licensed derby in the 1970's judging assignment. Mostly because I was the Qualifying guy who ran a few all-age stakes with no success. When I got a second place in a Amateur all-age at Virgina Minnesota, shortly after was asked to judge my first major stake. Apparently this new trend of folks need this instant gratification. I ask whats wrong with clubs and some do, ask you to do a minor stake first,check you out, even if you are a eight point major stake, then ask you to judge an all-age? Whats wrong with starting off in the minors, then advancing to the majors? I think it is the host club's responsibility , not the AKC, to monitor the qualifications. Apprenticeships are good, something is better then nothing, but, the responsibility is with all of us in the field trial game, we have to police ourselves. Like a fellow once told me no one pays attention to you unless you are holding "the book" .