I saw this video a couple of years ago on one of the other sites I'm on. One of the guys came on and defended/explained themselves pretty well. They wash dogs out that can't do the work, just like FT do. They rotate the dogs and they're trained/exposed to that type of retrieving. They don't just take a flat land puddle duck hunting dog like mine and throw him in. I'm not really defending it or condoning it. It's just different.