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    Quote Originally Posted by JTS View Post
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    No, actually there is 9 (GMHR, GRHRCH, MNH, NAFC, NFC, CFC, CAFC, CNFC, CNAFC) . And as has been mentioned, Field trials are competitive by design, hunt tests are not, thus hunt tests/titles do not factor into the discussion.
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    OK...let me phrase it this way. She has more accumulated titles than any other dog in history. Regardless of venue, why would you not consider her based on that accomplishment alone?? Because she played hts?? I'll take the versatility over a one trick pony any day...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JTS View Post
    NO.


    No, actually there is 9 (GMHR, GRHRCH, MNH, NAFC, NFC, CFC, CAFC, CNFC, CNAFC) . And as has been mentioned, Field trials are competitive by design, hunt tests are not, thus hunt tests/titles do not factor into the discussion.
    NFC NAFC Greatest FT Dog of All time would be useless if it broke at the sound of a duck call every time. FT only test one aspect of a retrievers talents and frankly pretty useless ones at that.


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    Paul, exactly what is the one aspect and one aspect alone displayed in a field trial? And how is that aspect useless? I'm serious not trying to be sarcastic.
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    I would take a MH , HRCH, MHR , over a FC/AFC any day of the week. Hunt test's , in my opinion, better test a dog. FT are a lot like Conformation shows, in that a lot of the judges and who has influence on those Judges feed into a 1st place and 2nd and so on.... Besides, whens the last time , hunting in the swamp or goose field, you ran a blind past two people in white jackets in lawn chairs reading a newspaper?? (actual test I saw at a Licensed FT Open stake).
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    To each his own but I completely disagree with you that a field trial is in anyway similar to a confirmation show. That's almost comical! I can't speak with a lot of FT experience as I am just getting started in that venue but I can tell you that my young FT dog can hunt with any of the others all day, everyday!

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    This outta be good!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAYDOG View Post
    I would take a MH , HRCH, MHR , over a FC/AFC any day of the week. Hunt test's , in my opinion, better test a dog. FT are a lot like Conformation shows, in that a lot of the judges and who has influence on those Judges feed into a 1st place and 2nd and so on.... Besides, whens the last time , hunting in the swamp or goose field, you ran a blind past two people in white jackets in lawn chairs reading a newspaper?? (actual test I saw at a Licensed FT Open stake).
    FTs are nothing but dogs running out to a guy in a white coat and picking up a bird. What could be easier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAYDOG View Post
    may have a winner?? SRSC FC AFC MHR HRCH DAY'S END HILLVIEW SUPER SUE MH
    Again we need to contemplate the idea of best. This dog would win the most versatile; and while she probably just ran out of time, or own interest I'm pretty sure, that GHRCH is an event that just wasn't ran. Plus she's a female; which make it more noteworthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunt'EmUp View Post
    Again we need to contemplate the idea of best. This dog would win the most versatile; and while she probably just ran out of time, or own interest I'm pretty sure, that GHRCH is an event that just wasn't ran. Plus she's a female; which make it more noteworthy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BAYDOG View Post
    I would take a MH , HRCH, MHR , over a FC/AFC any day of the week. Hunt test's , in my opinion, better test a dog. FT are a lot like Conformation shows, in that a lot of the judges and who has influence on those Judges feed into a 1st place and 2nd and so on.... Besides, whens the last time , hunting in the swamp or goose field, you ran a blind past two people in white jackets in lawn chairs reading a newspaper?? (actual test I saw at a Licensed FT Open stake).
    Your signature line pretty much sums up your "opinion".

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