I posted this on another forum, but I post it here also because I think sometimes newbies get focuses on methods and drills and don't consider in every training session the attitude of their dog or their training relationship to the dog.
I don't understand why some trainers have dry passionless relationship with their dog and seem to have a master-slave mentality instead of a coach-athlete mentality.
Here is an example with force to pile:
I think this trainer makes fundamental mistakes:
repeating commands may become background noise:
"sit,sit,sit,sit!" "come here, come here,heel" "here, here, comeon"
the first three sits don't count in the dogs mind...don't repeat commands...
"she does a little shopping at the pile"
why not clean that up first and keep the learning simple and focused rather than tolerating this?
"hold, hold", "hold,"hold","drop","no"
why not clean this up with thorough force-fetching before advancing to a new concept.
he does not read his dog and recognize the dog's attitude deteriorates... note the dogs attitude at the start versus the end of the session, especially on the return because she fears what is going on
the dog loops away from the handler on the first return,loops around the handler on the second return showing she is afraid of the handler in this master-slave relationship
From my perspective, this master-slave relationship is sad and he treats the dog like a robot rather than an intelligent animal.
Now contrast that video with this force-to-pile session :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_i2NYvk ... D97E7CE793
The handler still shows at least 1 mistake (dog has not been thoroughly force fetched),but the retriever has a much better attitude...in the long run I think this is key.
Which dog and trainer seems more likely to look forward to training the next day?
Which relationship (master-slave or coach athlete) will ultimately be better at handler communication on check down birds, fine lining, etc?
I view human-dog relationships more of a continuum from master-slave to coach-athlete, and most of the best trainers that I know are more towards the coach-athlete type of relationship.