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    Woman must have been a transplant from Colorado.
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    Recently I took Hunter Education with my son. Along with safety, there's a LOT of emphasis on public relations. The curriculum was created by people who recognize that our sport is practiced by a minority, a small minority, in a world where the vast majority of voters have no contact and little knowledge. Non-hunting voters are up for grabs. We were urged to be ambassadors for the sport, in a general sense, and advised of specific areas where non-hunters tend to have very different sensibilities than ours. We were also cautioned about avoiding playing into the anti-hunters' narratives.

    An important point is that, despite their noise, the anti-hunters are a small minority, too. Most non-hunters are agnostic; the impression we make on them can make a difference.

    When it comes to dog busybodies, it seems there's a huge network out there promoting and encouraging everyone to mind other peoples' business, and to judge rapidly without any interest in being informed. Some people on the bandwagon might be otherwise reasonable people who have just had the message reinforced from many sides. I think it is in our interest to work on P.R. with these folks as with non-hunters, and that we gain more by assuming that they're persuadable than the opposite. Note that lots of people get the advisories about cars being hot and becoming "death traps" for dogs (and children), and don't have any idea that it's the glass windows that let heat in but not out. So they're well-meaning but ignorant.

    But let's not ask for the moon! When someone intrudes, judges, gives an ultimatum, calls the police, and you're pissed off, letting the professionals handle it is IMO a classy solution. Some people can disarm and "kill with kindness" at a moment's notice; others of us are better off avoiding situations that might turn into a confrontation. LEOs are trained in tact and de-escalation and dealing with crap like this is part of their job.

    I hope I do as well as Ted next time it happens to me.

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    This reminds me of a story my father just told me. A few weeks ago he was walking his dog (a miniature schnauzer) at the local park. We live in western PA, so it was cold and there was snow on the ground. He had a lady stop him and tell him that he really should have a coat/jacket on his dog when it is cold out. He said that he was quite perplexed by her comment so he just responded with "he's already wearing one" obviously referring to the dog's natural coat, and just kept walking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post

    So, what does that tell you about her agenda?
    I saw a Houston newspaper article where the gist was TX is going liberal in the next election..... Methnks she voted commie like we have now.....
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    I will say that I would side with Ted in this matter also, having been involved in a similar situation myself.

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    I find that communication is actually construde as confrontation by folks like the women involved. The faster you can isolate yourself from them and their agendas the better......remember what you say can and will be used against you. Dealing with the educationed and rational authorities is a much safer option.

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    I've been accused more than once about "abusing my dogs" - one time I was escorted out of a restaurant while I was tryng to enjoy my beer and the person who complained was an employee who did not have the balls to come talk to me, but rather just called the cops/animal control; another was a PETA chick who called the cops when I attempted to be nice and explain to her "my kids" were okay....good thing she was such a busy body and the cops did a complete vehicle search when she refused to show them her driver's license....got a good chuckle out that one...heck, one report stated I had dogs in a "pizza box" - whatever that is?

    I've tried several approaches to handling people...I will tell you, those who are truly interested in the welfare of dogs and don't have an agenda will talk to you - and in the case of the PETA chick, one such couple who I had talked to earlier stopped by when they saw the cops talking to me and defended what I was doing - so there are good eggs and bad eggs out there, you learn real quick which ones truly are just good people looking out for animals but can be educated and those who just want to stir the poop.

    I would of more than likely handled the situation the way Ted did given the fact that the front desk clerk had already attempted to explain that all was okay, that should of been good enough.

    As a side note - not all law enforcement personnel are professional, in the case of the time I was pulled out of the restaurant, the animal control guys were trying hard to find something wrong with the situation and even had the nerve to suggest my dogs would of been better off in a Vari kennel vs. my dog box? They even ended up checking up with my Vet two days after because I did not have tags on my dogs, but I did have my Vet's card on me and gave them one....that was another good chuckle, since everyone in the Vet office knows me, they told the guy he was insane to think my dogs were even close to being abused!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HNTFSH View Post
    A karate chop to the throat works.
    Not when you are vertically challenged!
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    Personally Ted did the right thing involving the police. We can't see what is coming, bad things happen when people have the mindset this woman had. After the situation the police had all the info required to move forward had those doors been forced opened.

    I'll deal with people like that in my own way. My biggest fear is them not letting the situation go and more harm is caused to the dogs because of someone's failure to be educated.
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