Personal knowledge of a "washout young trial dog" for about $2500. some folks picked up, put it with a pro from a experienced amateur, went on to have over 100 all-age points titled both ways and competed in many nationals. Conversely a dog out of a very prominent pro field trialer camp's client was told not to buy the 20 month old dog.Price was dropped in half, Hunt Test Pro bought the dog and she went on to be a finalist in 6 Master Nationals. Was she a washout, I didn't think so, but, she went on to do great things in the AKC hunt test game. Found out later there was a conflict with the buyer, client and trainer.
Last edited by Criquetpas; 02-15-2014 at 04:29 PM.
I have a young dog now I am planning to sell. She is 16 months old. Out of Nafc and a canadian national finalist Who has produced qual. all age dogs. I have three young dogs and an All age bitch that went nine series in the recent national. I have to reduce number so I talked to my trainers and we picked the two you dogs that seem like they are doing the best and that we can evaluate at this time. Sophie is low girl on the stick. She has been with Kevin Cheff for 10 months doing pretty well he likes her but she is low girl so my wife and I are selling.
Is she a washout. Nope, could go on and do great things it seems she is maturing a little slower than the other so we made the decision. So the OP asked how we priced. I have 10 months of pro training. 900 a month plus all other costs so I say I have 11k invested plus puppy cost although I bred her. I am asking 5k but has to be the correct home.
I want to move her within the next month reduce my training bill so we figured 5k was a good number.
So, you know exactly how we came up with price. To me she is not a washout. I would keep if I didn't have two other young dogs plus an all-age who just turned on and won several opens. We planned on retiring her but not now, so I must sell a young dog.
There ya go. Hope that helped folks understand that all dogs being sold are not all washouts and how people come up with their price.
Written on phone so sorry. One post just upset me with his absurd comments.
Last edited by Laird's Retrievers; 02-15-2014 at 05:14 PM.
Chris, your explanation is a great example, that people who sell started dogs, are not getting rich from it. Even if the cost of Pro training is not factored in, it is far and away the exception that someone will profit on selling young dogs, although it does happen. The motivations to sell are personal and different from dog to dog and owner to owner.
Buyer still needs to beware, but for those with the shekels, it may be a less costly route, to buy started dogs.
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I have a problem following this thread, I have a boy that is QAA and a MH, but since his true love is huntig (so is mine) I told my Pro to run him on a few hunt test set ups while training for F/T since I could see he was getting down on F/T training I asked that they run him on a few H/T set ups to keep his attitude up. After 3 weeks H/T training instead of F/T training he ran 7 masters and finished 6 in a row for his MH and then successfully completed the Master National. Is this a wash out? Hopefully we will have success this year in both veniews. It depends on your goals, are you in it for you or for your dog? Our dogs dont have egos, we do, go for where heart sends you.
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I had about 12K in him and sold him for $5K. I have a four year old all age BLF that is starting to turn on and a 5 month BLF that will
go to Jason in a couple months. Trying to keep my pro training bill to 2 dogs per month.
The young man that bought the BLM, plans to run him in some derby, SRS and maybe AKC hunt tests.
He is tickled to death, and got a really nice dog for a really nice price!!!
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Regardless of what the ad says, I believe that ANY dog being advertized to be sold, is being washed out.[QUOTE]
That's a pretty ignorant thing to say,,and does not apply to every one.
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
Psalms 12: 8
The wicked walk on every side when the vilest men are exulted
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Sometimes, people sell dogs because their personalities don't click. I have seen that happen numerous times. The new owner goes on and takes them to being a field champion or whatever. It's not all because they are truly a "wash out."
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