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    Is it better to have your hand down on a marked retrieve or no hand? It seems like the hand would distract the dog more than help it and I think during a lot of hunting situations you wouldn't be able to do this. Don't rip me for asking I'd just like to know the plus for doing this and the minus. What's the reasoning for it?

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    Go bird, leave it down. Memory birds, use it.
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    the hand placed in, at least for me, is to cue the dog that he is in fact looking in the correct direction and is not to advert his gaze towards the passing bikini model but continue to look in that direction until i send him. Normally when hand goes in it is accompanied by some sweet talkin' like, "good" "right there" or even sit if needed.
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    Ok but why? I'm not being smart just would like to know what it helps

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    Sorry breck didn't see your post until I posted the second one. Thanks!

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    I think for the "go bird" it's accepted that the hand is another cue to go. Helps to prevent breaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lash View Post
    I think for the "go bird" it's accepted that the hand is another cue to go. Helps to prevent breaking.
    Yep..

    I was running test dog a few years back in a HRC finished test, after the last bird was down I stood up put the gun in the stand and stepped up to the dog put my hand in and sent the dog. After all the birds had been picked up one of the judges recommended that I shouldn't put my hand in because it made it appear that my dog didn't know where the mark was and I was lining him to the bird.

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    The hand down for me is used a que for "get set" rite before the verbal send. I use his name on Marks and Back on Blinds. I place the hand above the fore head as not to interfere with a mark. On blinds I will use "Good" if he is looking in the correct direction and "no" if he starts to look off in any direction or factors that I do not want.When he is in the direction I want I place my hand then I send him. I try to bring him to the line in the direction I want. I try not to sweat the dog on line. and send him as soon as I get a good general direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lash View Post
    I think for the "go bird" it's accepted that the hand is another cue to go. Helps to prevent breaking.
    That's what I do. Never send on a go bird in training without first putting hand down. Then in a trial, hopefully they wait for that cue before going for the first bird. Then hand down with loud send for long retired. No hand and quiet send for short retired. I think the dogs really do get it.
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