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    If one of the purposes of AKC or CKC evnts is the improvement of the breed, what is this improvement we seek?
    Is it their function?
    Form?
    Are the two not inseperable?
    What is improvement of form? Is the purpose of form, improvement to the eye, or the function?
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    IMHO to better the breed is to have function and form with good health. Ie an AA dog that still meets the original breed standards, takes your breath away watching them run and then comes home and puts it's head in your lap for scritches.

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    PS - also has an N or NA in front of the name

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    What about the overweight, bench legged, pug nosed things they show on TV and give awards at Westminster to...is that breed improvement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeOverby View Post
    What about the overweight, bench legged, pug nosed things they show on TV and give awards at Westminster to...is that breed improvement?

    When is the last time a Labrador won at the show??? Maybe that says something.

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    It is a catch phrase for people who don't really know what they are talking about to spout pontifically on internet forums.
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    Jeff: This, imo, is important. It's also important that they have good structure so they will hopefullly stand the pressures of time out there. Had someone today call me for a pup. Insisted on "British" (really English type) breeding. Ends up he does a lot of hiking on VERY rocky terrain. I told him if he was looking at litters to take a good look at FEET. The English types right now?? OMG. Will be arthritic by 5 or 6 w/ those pancake feet.

    There IS a reason for the standard folks, not just so we can bitch annually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Perry View Post
    It is a catch phrase for people who don't really know what they are talking about to spout pontifically on internet forums.
    EIC carrier, CNM carrier, fair hips regards.
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    And the Caramilk bar?
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    That's easy... http://members.shaw.ca/b.bogdan/caramilk/cadbury.htm

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    I personally think of a high performance athlete when I think this type of thing. Health clearances are a MUST! I think "fair hips" aren't good enough. If we want to improve the future generations, we should only keep the ones who have the best! I also wish we would look more at the coats... I look at so many labs that have exceptional temperaments, ability in the field, solid body structure, but their coats can't withstand the cold temps like they were meant to... I think that is one aspect we have lost and overlook because the dogs perform so well in the hunt test/field trial game. I know I wish my Lab had a tougher coat.

    Carmel inside the bar? How about figuring out why so many people care about Kim Kardashian and Kanye having a baby.... That one throws me for a loop!
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