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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Russ, Ed, Corey, Eric,

    I'm not going to try to change any of your opinions. You are entitled to them.

    I think that most if not all of you would view this differently if you were in my shoes.

    To all:

    The reason I made this thread, and the reason I left the "moved" notation on the board was to make it publicly clear that I removed the thread and why. I also made it clear how users can conduct themselves so that this does not happen again.

    Every one of us has the ability to help self-regulate this culture and keep it on track. We knowingly conduct ourselves in a way that retains the value of the discussion and eliminates the threat against this resource, we keep things moving ahead.

    I put plenty of time into this site as it is. I see no clean way to hand pick the "offensive" stuff, without creating even more complaining. I've done it before in the past and had limited success. I've also taken the position of deleting every post after a certain point in time. That has also lead to even more hard feelings. I've found it is best to:

    A) have the offending party delete or edit. OR

    B) remove the entire thread.

    You are all welcome to resume discussion of the topic. Keep it dirty side down and clean side up...please.

    I'm confident that all who are passionate and with good ideas and solutions will understand the logic and will take the time to implement their ideas in ways that can create positive change. Frankly, anybody who wants to say that the solution was on an RTF discussion, but it is lost forever because Chris pulled the post, is being unrealistic.

    I hope you all enjoy your Sunday and have a productive new week.

    Chris

    Oh, we also have one more former RTF user now on the "read only" list.
    Chris great choice and use of words.Pretty simple! Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Nobody cured cancer. The good ideas can be reposted by those with the passion and the ideas.
    Not really. You lose the passion. It's kind of like you and your honey getting romantic one night and having one of the kids bust in. That moment is gone. You may get back to business, but it's not the same because now your sure that door is going to swing open again. You lost that loving feeling.

    Your board your your the one who has to act when some pansy ass threatens to sue you. Your call. As I have said for many years and you are well aware I don't agree with pulling threads but little consequences for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badbullgator View Post
    Not really. You lose the passion. It's kind of like you and your honey getting romantic one night and having one of the kids bust in. That moment is gone. You may get back to business, but it's not the same because now your sure that door is going to swing open again. You lost that loving feeling.

    Your board your your the one who has to act when some pansy ass threatens to sue you. Your call. As I have said for many years and you are well aware I don't agree with pulling threads but little consequences for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    It's easy to tell someone to accept risks when you don't have to shoulder the consequences of that risk, but they do.
    Ted I don't see anything in that statement telling anyone to accept risk. In fact just the opposite, I clearly say that it's his board and he is the one who has to act when some pansy ass threatens him and that it is his call.
    That doesn't change the fact that I don't like it when a hot topic gets pulled. What's the problem with that?
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    Corey,

    Your first paragraph about losing the passion is also applicable for me with running this resource.

    Frankly, I sometimes feel like folks enjoy sniping at me and what I do...sometimes here, sometimes in their own little groups. I don't expect everybody to like me. I don't expect everybody to agree with me.

    But I tend to lose some passion about running this thing sometimes when the sniping comes up. For the most part, I've dealt with those individuals privately - frequently over the phone. Many times, it results in some cooperation. Not always.

    But I get it.

    Hey, it comes with the territory. But this weekend is the first bare ground we've seen in weeks. And rather than training dogs, I've found myself spending more time on here - not for fun reasons - than I'd like.

    Headed out the door now, in fact.

    Chris
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    I certainly hope that anyone that has ever threatened you with legal issues has lost their ability to read and post on this forum. Like Ed, it's your park, I just like to play on the merry go round. It's just that I am not a fan of just taking the swing set away when the bully is shoving the good kids off of it.
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    I didn't take away a piece of playground equipment. I erased the chalk on the asphalt for the hopscotch game.

    Step up and draw some new squares!

    There's abundant bare pavement with no traffic. It's a clean slate.

    And yes, To quote a very good friend: "Why is it that the biggest loudmouths post under a handle only?"

    I concur with that. I agree there are valid reasons for folks to want to conceal their identity. For those folks, why they choose to be so controversial and outspoken escapes me. I guess we don't all have the same values and levels of integrity.

    Chris
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    when you take to posting on the internet, you do so a your own peril. If people think they are truely anonymous, they are only kidding themselves. It doesn't take much to figure out who they are. To cry foul is ludicrous.

    Some of us have stepped up and told Chris in the past that he would be defended pro bono ...
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    Hey Chris!

    I have no dog in this fight a-tall, but I think it's about time you pulled this one too. We all see where this is headed.



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