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    Quote Originally Posted by frontier View Post
    Why is the book open to the Cocker instead of the Boykin Spaniel
    Because every boykin wishes they could be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Rosier View Post
    Bwahahahaha



    Fa real......
    shut up rosier. Go crappie fishing with your net dragger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blainet View Post
    shut up rosier. Go crappie fishing with your net dragger.
    ....... :like:
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    Quote Originally Posted by leemac View Post
    If I was looking for a Boykin I would be looking for a breeding with Saint Thomas Chief as the sire. I'm pretty sure he was the second Boykin GrHRCH and the first MH.

    He has a MHR (Master Hunter Retriever). Chief does not have a MH yet.
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    HRCH UH Carolina's Duck Gumbo MHA SHR RN WDS CGC TDI (Gumbo) 1000 Point Club
    UH HR GCH Carolina's Wild March Hare SH JHR RAE OA OAJ WDX CGC TDI (Bunny)
    HR CH Carolina's Running with the Hare SH JHR RN WDX CGC (Blew)

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    To clarify my post above. Spaniels get a MH for Spaniel (Upland)tests and a MHR for Retriever tests. Retrievers get a MH for Retriever tests and a MHU for Spaniel tests. Boykins and America Water Spaniels (which are classified by AKC as Spaniels) are eligible to run in AKC Retriever hunt tests. Labs, Goldens, Flat Coats, Curleys, and Irish Water Spaniels, which are classified as Retrievers are also eligible to run in AKC Spaniel (Upland) hunt tests. The difference in in the titles. JH, SH, MH for Spaniels passing Spaniel tests; JHU, SHU, MHU for Retrievers titling in Spaniel hunt tests. JH, SH, MH for Retrievers titling in Retriever hunt tests; JHR, SHR,MHR for Spaniels titling in Retriever hunt tests.
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    HRCH UH Carolina's Duck Gumbo MHA SHR RN WDS CGC TDI (Gumbo) 1000 Point Club
    UH HR GCH Carolina's Wild March Hare SH JHR RAE OA OAJ WDX CGC TDI (Bunny)
    HR CH Carolina's Running with the Hare SH JHR RN WDX CGC (Blew)

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    Quote Originally Posted by David McCracken View Post
    He has a MHR (Master Hunter Retriever). Chief does not have a MH yet.
    Don't know him, his owner or anyone involved... But Hunting lab pedigree shows he has GRHRCH UH and MH

    Notes say he went 6/6 in AKC master retriever tests. Was 2012 MN Qualifier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roseberry View Post
    you should call or pm my friend butch herb, bamastripes on rtf. according to me, his boykin stoney is the best boykin in the world.(boykin specific field trial-2011-1st, 2012-4th, 2013 1st. 500 hrc points. mh) if stoney is being bred, it will be to a nice bitch and your friend should get one.
    Stoney is a great dog, but you'd better check Chief's record. Chief has over 2000 HRC points and is a GRHRCH. However, neither Stoney nor Chief have a MH. They both have MHR's. A MH for a Spaniel is earned in a Spaniel test (Upland flushing). When a Spaniel titles in an AKC Retriever test, it is a MHR (Master Hunter Retriever). I know that's splitting hairs, but folks might as well get the titles right.
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    HRCH UH Carolina's Duck Gumbo MHA SHR RN WDS CGC TDI (Gumbo) 1000 Point Club
    UH HR GCH Carolina's Wild March Hare SH JHR RAE OA OAJ WDX CGC TDI (Bunny)
    HR CH Carolina's Running with the Hare SH JHR RN WDX CGC (Blew)

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    Quote Originally Posted by David McCracken View Post
    ...better check Chief's record. Chief has over 2000 HRC points and is a GRHRCH. However, neither Stoney nor Chief have a MH. They both have MHR's. A MH for a Spaniel is earned in a Spaniel test (Upland flushing). When a Spaniel titles in an AKC Retriever test, it is a MHR (Master Hunter Retriever). I know that's splitting hairs, but folks might as well get the titles right.
    Dave, just what are you professing, or a professor of, in this case? A dog has to have earned the Master Hunter title to qualify for the Master National in the first place. Or is there a Master National for Spaniels? - or a "Rare Breed" Master National? - don't think so. Chief got there the old fashioned way - by running with and agin' the big dogs.

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    isn't it just different verbiage to differentiate that a boykin spaniel passed master hunter tests for retrievers in an akc test. Yes Chief has the same title from AKC hunt tests that the labs do, just a different Acronym at the end of his name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlaineT View Post
    isn't it just different verbiage to differentiate that a boykin spaniel passed master hunter tests for retrievers in an akc test. Yes Chief has the same title from AKC hunt tests that the labs do, just a different Acronym at the end of his name.
    Exactly. As David has ALREADY explained about 3 different times.......
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