The reason that the issues are so blatantly obvious in the Labrador Retriever breed, isn't that it's a "Lab thing".
It's because the Labrador Retriever dominates the field in performance competition and testing.
And thus, it is being selectively bred for that arena on a much larger scale than the other Retriever breeds.
The problem is with the Conformation system. Across the board, for ALL breeds of dogs.
And they aren't going to change the system just because we can't use what it produces for honest-to-goodness functional purposes.
Last edited by copterdoc; 02-23-2014 at 01:10 PM.
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So football players have not changed from the fifties to the players 60 years into the future ? Things change. The rich only owned the dogs you are showing pictures of. The numbers were never as great as today.
Just curious. At adult age how tall is your Labrador at the withers ? Just about every Field Lab male I run into hunting towers over my Labrador who is to standard height.
I am betting your Field Labs today are quite taller then Labs of the past you are posting pictures of. They are beautiful specimens, but also not to standard.
Size - The height at the withers for a dog is 22-1/2 to 24-1/2 inches; for a bitch is 21-1/2 to 23-1/2 inches. Any variance greater than 1/2 inch above or below these heights is a disqualification. Approximate weight of dogs and bitches in working condition: dogs 65 to 80 pounds; bitches 55 to 70 pounds. The minimum height ranges set forth in the paragraph above shall not apply to dogs or bitches under twelve months of age.
Ive owned 6 field trial bred bitches since 1997. All were somewhere between 21 and 23". Four were 21-21 1/2", two over 22". My tall girl measured in at 23.
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Maybe the Retriever or gun dog clubs should get together and start a working show dogs type of event. Minimum quals or title to be called a working dog as a pre-requisite to enter, then hold the beauty contest. You could go as deep as you want, best of breed, best color of each breed and then best of show etc...
I can feel the cost of new pups going up already.
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Meanwhile, Labrador retrievers - of the conformation persuasion - have gotten bigger. And bigger...and bigger. Nobody needs to tell you what "bigger"'s a euphemism for, either.
from a little closer vantage, say at a field trial.