Alright, first off I'm not trying to start an entertainment thread or an argument. All I'm wondering is what is the best program or programs to use for "Amish" or non-electric training? All I'm looking for is a dog to be my family's buddy and retrieve the ducks I shoot. I'm also open on any tips whatsoever on training being as this will be my first time trying on a pup. I am most likely getting a lab but I have some heard some good things about GSPs and they have my attention. Anyone have any experience with GSPs (german shorthaired pointer)?