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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    Until you put on a field trial, it is hard to appreciate the costs associated with it. For example,
    - insurance
    - lease
    - shells
    - help
    - birds
    - judges (travel, housing, meals, gifts)
    - ribbons, trophies

    The Rocky Mountain Retriever Club will charge $90 in Open.

    We will be happy if we break even
    Exactly! People don't have a clue what it costs to put on a trial. And there is new equipment when the old stuff gives out, lunches for the workers in addition to the judges meals..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wade View Post
    I would rather play Pebble Beach once in my lifetime than spend a summer running, training and paying for my dogs!!!
    Funny you should mention Pebble Beach - seems our intel has ID'd ol' bluehen, and it turns out he has great familiarity with the grounds where DelBay's trials are run. So in the spirit of Pebble Beach, next thing to do is try and get him one of those exemptions like the PGA hands out - or at least a partial exemption - or failing that, maybe a cup of coffee and a muskrat sammich for breakfast before test dog's called... May not be a $50 flier, but that's the least we can do in welcoming the return migration of a fellow Blue Hen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Tilleraas View Post
    "Bird Management" No reason for $100 entry fees. If a NAHRA club can rent the same grounds as an AKC club does and stays in the black...
    Interesting analogy. Haven't really put much thought into the differences, and probably should before I post, but Hunt Tests around here are still around $75 for Master, and most of the costs and requirements are the same as a Field Trial. Greater number of total series in a 4 stake Trial that require resources than in a 3 stake Hunt Test (unless you add an O/H Qual as we do), but the number of competitors in the last two series are generally pared down significantly from the start. O/H Quals associated with Hunt Tests start on Friday, and usually finish the same day, but they do add the fourth stake and a third day like a Trial. Is the added cost solely attributed to the extra day it takes to run a Trial? Oftentimes the Derby and Qual judges are the same so there should be an economy gained there. Gotta think about it some more...
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    First, it is not a $100 entry really. When you consider that the Amateur entry is $80, the cost for an Amateur running his/her dog in the Open and Amateur is $90. So you ought to look at the numbers in that light.

    Second, costs vary from region to region, club to club. You need to look at the numbers before concluding that entry costs are too high.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy Tilleraas View Post
    "Bird Management" No reason for $100 entry fees. If a NAHRA club can rent the same grounds as an AKC club does and stays in the black...
    Would you still be in the black W/O a raffle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted Shih View Post
    Until you put on a field trial, it is hard to appreciate the costs associated with it. For example,
    - insurance
    - lease
    - shells
    - help
    - birds
    - judges (travel, housing, meals, gifts)
    - ribbons, trophies

    The Rocky Mountain Retriever Club will charge $90 in Open.

    We will be happy if we break even
    When I started Scatter Creek Retiever Club I did the math and
    All but land charge I can put a trial on for $8000.00 +or - 200.00
    That was
    Insurance
    Birds
    Bird boys and girls good ones
    Judges really good ones
    Motels cheap
    Food lunches drinks the lunches were hot and made by me and help
    Ribbons
    Ammo
    Judges gifts
    Trophies
    Ect...
    And our entries I believe where 75-80
    And know I could bring down the entry fee
    In the following year my plan was to get them down
    Too 70.00 for all stakes.
    I understand why entries are rising but if you do the work
    As a club the trial cost can come way down.
    Granite our judges where great and keep travel down two flew
    Inn but they were awesome with cheap fares

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Bartlett View Post
    When I started Scatter Creek Retiever Club I did the math and
    All but land charge I can put a trial on for $8000.00 +or - 200.00
    That was
    Insurance
    Birds
    Bird boys and girls good ones
    Judges really good ones
    Motels cheap
    Food lunches drinks the lunches were hot and made by me and help
    Ribbons
    Ammo
    Judges gifts
    Trophies
    Ect...
    And our entries I believe where 75-80
    And know I could bring down the entry fee
    In the following year my plan was to get them down
    Too 70.00 for all stakes.
    I understand why entries are rising but if you do the work
    As a club the trial cost can come way down.
    Granite our judges where great and keep travel down two flew
    Inn but they were awesome with cheap fares
    $8000 divided by 80 entries is $100.

    All of our bird throwers & planters are adults, costing us a few thousand dollars for a trial (including workers compensation) on top of all of the other costs.

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    The had trial 150 entries I think with a couple scratches which is average
    For local trials

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    Wished I could put a trial on for $8k...
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    I am amazed that people can tell others that they can put on a trial for ______ without knowing what their cost structure is.
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