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    Dog got to the area and hunted up the bird. Dogs smart enough to track and deal with a running rooster pheasant. Pretty much answers the question "would I hunt with this dog?"
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    That was fun to watch! Especially when the bird tried to flush when the dog caught up to it! That dog is a conservation tool! I'm sure it was proud to deliver to it's master!
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    The dog showed the highest degree of competence in that he not only marked the fall but he also immediately recognized that the bird had moved & trailed it unerringly to make the retrieve.

    The question is, would a dog that has been trained not to leave the area of the fall have lingered in the AOF long enough to let the bird escape?
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    Breck,

    Thanks for posting the link; I'd seen it before but it's always worth a second look.

    I think this points up the differences between Trials in the US and over here. My old chum Jeff Boston described US Trials as remarkable retrieving, and UK Trials as remarkable gamefinding; whilst that's not the whole story it's pretty accurate. The dog would have undoubtedly been marked with an "A" on what would have been a no-bird in a US Trial. Vive la difference!

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    That looked similar to a trail seen in NAHRA...or an average day of guiding out in SoDak...I would have marked him down for the drop, tho...that was more than a reposition....
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    The dog took the cast to the area of fall, responded well to the whistle "stop command", took the cast in the birds direction of travel, picked up the scent trail and then picked the bird-demonstrating excellent gamefinding ability . From the limited content of the video it was overall, a solid "A" performance under BFTSA rules.

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    i would have failed that SOB on the way to the line just like they do in the Grand.

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    The dog would have been given some extra credit possibly on his collection of a long runner. So, marked up from an A, or at least some comments to remind the judges of the difficulty of the retrieve. However, having said that, (playing devils advocate) yes it was a very nice methodical piece of dog work once the dog tracked the runner, but you could argue a faster/better marking dog would have made the fall more quickly and collected the bird before it became such a long runner. Wouldn't have looked so spectacular to the gallery perhaps, but which would have been the better dog?.....

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    KM did you see the runner taking off around 10 seconds into video? I reran it several times thinking it was a rabbit. It was really hauling butt. Do you see a rabbit or pheasant?
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    And I would say that was more realistic of actual pheasant hunting....especially when you are hunting with such a wonderful shot like me!
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