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    GO Rowdy GO, Good luck Wayne!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    Not so even though that is what we do in training but it is conventional for the gun to shoot first and then throw.
    THAT IS GOOD NEWS Thanks , except that there is no duck call or attention getters for the flyer. The reason I said it, the first derby I ran ( of only 3), my dog was locked on the memory bird and I waited a bit too long and he missed the flyer. Fortunately the flyer was a no bird, flying way beyond the normal fall, I got a redo....
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    Wayne, you and Rowdy have fun. Remember to sloooow doooown. Make sure he is keyed in and locked in on the memory bird but still gets the picture of all of the marks. Your the driver and the judges wait for you to signal you're ready. You'll do well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    Not so even though that is what we do in training but it is conventional for the gun to shoot first and then throw.


    Curious Ed. Why do you throw then shoot in training?

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    You (and Rowdy) got this Wayne ! Don't forget to have fun Thanks for sharing !
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    Good luck Wayne. I have learn allot from you share you knowledge. Thanks allot.
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    Wondering the same thing. On my young dogs that I hope to run in FT one day I have been shooting then throwing because that's the way I saw it done at several FT's I have watched. Practice like you play? If there is a good training reason I'd like to know before I screw up. Sorry for the hijack.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Shaver View Post
    Curious Ed. Why do you throw then shoot in training?

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    Because shooting then throwing can be a crutch. Throw then shoot and you will be forced to work on push/pull in training. Sometimes the gun isint heard until the bird hits the ground--your dog better be moving with YOU. Just my uneducated guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Shaver View Post
    Curious Ed. Why do you throw then shoot in training?

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    If you can run a triple without shooting until the bird is at it's arch, meaning the dog sees all birds then you shouldn't have any problem when there are shots in the field. Don't rely on the guns to help your dogs see the birds, the handler needs to be in control of that.
    Quote Originally Posted by labman63 View Post
    Wondering the same thing. On my young dogs that I hope to run in FT one day I have been shooting then throwing because that's the way I saw it done at several FT's I have watched. Practice like you play? If there is a good training reason I'd like to know before I screw up. Sorry for the hijack.

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    It depends on where dog is in training when you shoot or throw.
    A young dog your going to shoot first then throw or even shoot multiple times then throw or even throw multiple times.
    As dog progresses you're going to mix things up.
    Throw then shoot.
    You may not shoot at all.
    and when they are better you may not shoot OR throw at all.
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    For a well schooled all-age dog in training you should be able to run a big triple or quad with retireds where the only shot dog hears or bird he sees fall will be the flyer. They'll see guns standing and sitting and maybe move a little but no throw or shot.
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