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    2 years ago Reuters reported Harry Reids Son made a deal with the chineese to put a solar plant at these sites along with a solar farm.

    You can't make this stuff up. This land grab has nothing to do with turtles.
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    If this land grab is true or not Harry Reid is a slime ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete View Post
    2 years ago Reuters reported Harry Reids Son made a deal with the chineese to put a solar plant at these sites along with a solar farm.

    You can't make this stuff up. This land grab has nothing to do with turtles.
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    How and why did this become "our" land or the Fed's land to begin with? Where in the COnstitution does the Federal Govt./BLM have the right to confiscate land and make it their own? This land belongs to the State of Nevada, it should be returned, just like all government/BLM land should be. What happened to the 10th Amendment? If the Constitution doesn't specifically grant the power, it's within the State's jurisdiction.

    The Feds just come in and take, then lay down some law about grazing and fees/taxes then say you have to pay or else. What the hell?

    It's happening on the Red River, the border between Texas and Oklahoma too...and I'm sure many other places as someone else mentioned. The Constitution doesn't give the Feds the right to confiscate OUR land.

    What was the purpose of the formation of the federal government anyway? This is the United STATES (keyword States) of America....but it's turning into a dictatorship.

    So now they slap down fees on this man and his family that have been using this land for ranching/grazing purposes for 160 years. You must pay or else. So they round up and euthanize his cattle, taking away his family's ability to earn income, thus destroying them. It's not about a turtle. Now you hear Reid is involved and they want to make a solar farm in the area. The Feds are also thinking of a flatulence tax on cattle. You know, red meat is bad for you and cattle are just dirty, plus they add to greenhouse gasses, thus causing global warming....so we just need to get rid of them and a solar farm is just so much cleaner and a better use of the land. You don't need to be drinking soda, don't eat red meat, stop global warming, get moving, and the federal government dictates winners and losers in our society. Yeah, that's why the founding fathers created the USA/federal govt.

    Folks they don't give a flip about tortoises... It's their excuse to excercise CONTROL! To control us... to bully us... to extract our time and our treasure away... to make us their servants. Think about it and start speaking up.

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    The issue is simple.

    Does Bundy own the land? NO.

    Did he have to pay a grazing fee to maintain his grazing rights? Yep.

    Did he pay those Fees? Nope.

    Was he ordered by the courts many times over 20 years to pay up or move? Yep.

    Did he? No.

    Did he owe the government over a $ million for fees. Yep, the courts said so.

    Why did he not end up in the slammer for contempt for not complying with court orders? Mystery.

    He was lucky. He got twenty years of illegal grazing for free at the taxpayer's expense. But, instead of taking his lumps like a man, Bundy goes weeping to to every rabid paramilitary outfit he can find.

    Then there is the conspiracy theorists that hold Harry Reid or his son is somehow in league with the Chinese for a solar plant. Let's think this one through a bit. First this is government land, Reid has no right to commit to its use.

    Why would the Chinese be interested in a US solar plant? They have plenty of desert land available to develop a plant there. How are they going to get the power to Beijing? Next, you are going to tell me that some relative of Nancy Pelosi has the contract to lay a power cable across the Pacific. Your thirst for fantasy never ceases to amaze.

    I can't say I agree with everything done in the government's name, but in this case, why did it take so long to move?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeus3925 View Post
    The issue is simple.

    Does Bundy own the land? NO.

    Did he have to pay a grazing fee to maintain his grazing rights? Yep.

    Did he pay those Fees? Nope.

    Was he ordered by the courts many times over 20 years to pay up or move? Yep.

    Did he? No.

    Did he owe the government over a $ million for fees. Yep, the courts said so.

    Why was he did he not end up in the slammer for contempt for not complying with court orders? Mystery.

    He was lucky. He got twenty years of illegal grazing for free at the taxpayer's expense. But, instead of taking his lumps like a man, Bundy goes weeping to to every rabid paramilitary outfit he can find.

    Then there is the conspiracy theorists that hold Harry Reid or his son is somehow in league with the Chinese for a solar plant. Let's think this one through a bit. First this is government land, Reid has no right to commit to its use.

    Why would the Chinese be interested in a US solar plant? They have plenty of desert land available to develop a plant there. How are they going to get the power to Beijing? Next, you are going to tell me that some relative of Nancy Pelosi has the contract to lay a power cable across the Pacific. Your thirst for fantasy never ceases to amaze.

    I can't say I agree with everything done in the government's name, but in this case, why did it take so long to move?
    Zeus I think you read more into the infowar article than anyone else here. Where did it say it was for China's power consumption? Maybe it's just as simple as a Chinese business investment. Yes you are right that Reid has no influence in our government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freezeland View Post
    Zeus I think you read more into the infowar article than anyone else here. Where did it say it was for China's power consumption? Maybe it's just as simple as a Chinese business investment. Yes you are right that Reid has no influence in our government.
    I didn't say Reid was without influence. But, the ownership of the land is governmental and thus not subject to use for private enterprise, especially if you refuse to pay the fee.

    You are trying to convince everyone here that somehow the Reid 's are focusing on this poor little rancher, because, in the midst of the vast Nevada desert, this is the only spot Reid's son can build a Chinese solar array. That assertion is pretty damn elastic.

    But, there is enough of imagined villains here to satisfy a vampire's blood lust, Obama, Reid, the BLM, the courts, environmentalists, not to mention the Great Yellow Peril. Bon Appetit!
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    Now the FAA imposed a no fly zone over the area. What are they trying to hide?
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    Quote Originally Posted by luvmylabs23139 View Post
    Now the FAA imposed a no fly zone over the area. What are they trying to hide?
    An alien landing?
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