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    I would like to know a little more about Dex. If my dog were to be bitten and someone suggested this as a treatment, is it something I should avoid as dangerous, or is just not particularly effective?
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    I'd have to believe a sense of smell is more valuable (to a dog) in determining a threat from a snake rather than it's appearance.

    The meds to remedy a bite are more what I would want to research if I were in that situation.

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    Dexamethasone is a steroid, its main use is to reduce edema (swelling) typically caused by inflammation. In surgical arenas we use it when we know a side effect of the procedure will be a large amount of swelling or if neurosurgery (brain swelling = death) is required. Due to the fact (as someone has previously mentioned) it is a corticosteroid, it can have side effects. However, most of the serious side effects are more evident in the chronic use or worse, chronic use and acute withdrawal.

    The reason Dex is mentioned in context to a snakebite is that some bites cause massive swelling of the inflicted area, or could cause anaphylaxis (severe allergic reaction where the throat closes). If the swelling occurred near the throat of the dog it could impair or stop their breathing. However, Dex given for a snakebite could be equally dangerous, as it reduces the swelling in the bitten area it reliefs pressure on the circulation and could provide a fast-track to the heart and thus death.

    So the answer to your question is not straight forward and is the reason that a normal individual should probably not use it. My suggestion is carry a BIG box of anti-histamine (you need a LOT of it, dogs are 10X LESS sensitive to the doses that humans are) learn how to do a compression bandage, tourniquet , know where your vet and 24 hr. vet clinic is, make sure a keep a eye on any abnormal behavior of your dog in the field, and run a test drill (under pressure people do stupid things and time is essential in snakebites).

    Janell Richardson, PhD Pharmacolgy
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    Thank you for that complete knowledgable reply! This is the reason I always stick with RTF . Very helpful.
    Carol,
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    I was in NC for 4 years, from mid 80s-90. Spent a lot of time on the coast and in the mountains grouse and duck hunting. The only snakes I ever came across were copperheads, actually found more snakes in my yard than in the woods! However, this past summer, my dog was bitten by a Timber Rattlesnake, in all places, Pennsylvania! After 5 days in the dog hospital, I had a conversation with the 2 vets who were working with my dog. Their opinion was the vaccine is not very effective and the post bite treatment is still the same. While this was a specialty animal hospital in Ohio, one of the vets was from Georgia coast, and practiced in OK for years and the other practices for years in Texas. Both had quite a bit of snake bite experience. For what is's worth...

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    Thanks for all the replies.

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