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    I need help addressing an issue. Im working on pile work. Overs and backs went smoothly on 3H. Now I started to work on pile work and I'm getting no go when send from the side. Any thoughts????
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    Did you FTP from your side or from front finish? If you didn't send from your side go back and force from there.

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    smart ass first thought.... stop sending from your side
    helpfull first thought.... move up, I.D. pile with a toss and move back = happy dog running to pile.
    old school.... take a bold step forward, high E-colar nick, yell "here", "Sit", & "Back" = dog runs away from you going at a pile.
    pesky deep thinking...... is it better to have a dog run to a pile, or run away from you, when doing pile work???
    peskyER deep thinking...... why am I doing pile work???
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    ^^^^ ditto. Winner winner chicken dinner!
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    You need to slowly transition from simple casting to FTP. Start with pile at about same distance as on simple casting backs. Send to pile just like you did on back cast in simple casting.
    Slowly increase distance out to about 30 yards. After going confidently slip in a side send. Essentially same thing Ken said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie Alderson View Post
    ^^^^ ditto. Winner winner chicken dinner!
    Pesky(est) deep thinking: if the dog is enthusiastically retrieving to a pile, why force to a pile?
    Because the dog isn't enthusiastically going to the pile. He is going at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyRodgz View Post
    I need help addressing an issue. Im working on pile work. Overs and backs went smoothly on 3H. Now I started to work on pile work and I'm getting no go when send from the side. Any thoughts????
    Could the pup be bored?

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    Set up the pile as an extension of walking fetch. Work towards the pile in walking fetch fashion and then back away from the pile incrementally until you are 40 yards out.
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    Thanks for the inputs. When at it again today. He's more responsive to the word fetch than the the word back. Also I'm noticing a little flaring on the left back cast as I walk back to increase distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyRodgz View Post
    Thanks for the inputs. When at it again today. He's more responsive to the word fetch than the the word back. Also I'm noticing a little flaring on the left back cast as I walk back to increase distance.

    Simply say "back" then pause 1/2 sec and say "fetch" ... He will get what back means after 50 or so reps
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