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Thread: Correction - New Designation for Owner/Handler Amateur

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    It appears that I was slightly misinformed. Hence, the correction.

    According to John Russell, the change under discussion is not to add a third category of Amateur Stake. Rather, it is to clarify the parameters of the Owner/Handler Stake. The proposal under consideration to to make the O/H available only to "exclusive owners" that is: the owner and his/her immediate family. Husbands and wives, Parents and children, would all be considered "exclusive owners" and eligible to run in the O/H Amateur.

    Clubs would be able to elect, as before, to hold an Amateur or an O/H Amateur.

    It is thought that this clarification is consistent of the intent of the O/H Amateur when it was first proposed.

    Again, the RAC is interested in feedback on this proposal from the FT community.

    John confirmed that the RAC abandoned the proposal for limits on the numbers of dogs per handler in the Amateur. He noted that there was simply a lack of interest in the proposal. He noted that if sufficient numbers of people expressed an interest in revisiting the concept, the RAC would consider it.

    The above is all I know, so I cannot answer any questions for further information.

    As before, I urge that you get involved in these issues and contact the RAC if you have concerns.

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    Ted:
    Would you mind publishing again the contacts on the RAC for each region?
    I appreciate your communicating this information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawthorpe View Post
    Ted:
    Would you mind publishing again the contacts on the RAC for each region?
    I appreciate your communicating this information.

    I am not sure how regions are divvied up. However, the members that I know are:

    Kate Simonds
    Ray Vreeland
    John Russell
    John Goettl

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    What is the definition of "owner" ?
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    I wonder if the RAC will solicit opinions via snail mail directly from the AKC club contacts/secretaries, or if they are going to rely on word of mouth via RTF and weekend field trials to get the feedback in order to craft a rule change proposal...and where does the "interest" comes from in this proposal and how widespread IS that interest?

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    thanks for the update Ted....but just wondering if they might to change the wording from Exclusive Owner to Primary Owner, before someone claims that there are a duo or trio of Exclusive Owners
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    Quote Originally Posted by K G View Post
    I wonder if the RAC will solicit opinions via snail mail directly from the AKC club contacts/secretaries, or if they are going to rely on word of mouth via RTF and weekend field trials to get the feedback in order to craft a rule change proposal...and where does the "interest" comes from in this proposal and how widespread IS that interest?

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    Like the idea of limiting dogs per handler in the Amateur, I believe that the idea will be discussed at the NARC and NRC, and will be noted in the Retriever News. Input will be solicited. If there is sufficient interest, a proposal will be crafted, and the proposal sent as before to the clubs for their review and written response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    thanks for the update Ted....but just wondering if they might to change the wording from Exclusive Owner to Primary Owner, before someone claims that there are a duo or trio of Exclusive Owners

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    If the idea generates sufficient interest, I believe that the RAC will word a proposal which defines "Exclusive Owner" (their term) to address your concern. I think - without knowing - that their "Exclusive Owner" will be similar to what I called "Single Family Owner"

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRAKEHAVEN View Post
    What is the definition of "owner" ?

    The "Owner" of a dog is determined by its AKC registration papers.
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    to me again this is a total waste of time. How common is a O/H Am stake, because I can't remember ever seeing an O/H Am stake her on the east coast.

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