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    Quote Originally Posted by jd6400 View Post
    Ok lets analyze why first, dog fades on line ,you whistle sit, cast into the wind but why wont he take the cast, because he cant smell a bird........take it from there.

    The word is also a key component that is a must in people or friends of mine also or I would rather not have anything to do with them. Jim
    I'll play with two guesses. I would say either trust or surrender. Even though that big ol' wet thing on the end of his face is telling him there is no bird over there (if there was he would have winded it already), he will trust you to put him on the bird. Or possibly surrender to the "dead bird" cue and your handling and let you put him on the bird. Seemingly not much difference either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd6400 View Post
    Ok lets analyze why first, dog fades on line ,you whistle sit, cast into the wind but why wont he take the cast, because he cant smell a bird........take it from there.

    The word is also a key component that is a must in people or friends of mine also or I would rather not have anything to do with them. Jim
    TRUST.....the dog must first learn to trust that when you cast him youre sending him to he pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, that he isnt going to get crucified(nicked, burned etc)
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    Bingo.....TRUST...Dog needs to trust you instead of his nose....I`ve got lots of drills that have been handed down that I use but common sense is a great approach when when gaining TRUST.

    Dont get on here much but enjoyed the discussion. Jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridget Bodine View Post
    Honesty!........
    That is the first thing I look for in people...

    Trust is good!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd6400 View Post
    Ok lets analyze why first, dog fades on line ,you whistle sit, cast into the wind but why wont he take the cast, because he cant smell a bird........take it from there.

    The word is also a key component that is a must in people or friends of mine also or I would rather not have anything to do with them. Jim
    Trust................

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    Trust is established by consistently demanding high levels of responsiveness. You can't have one without the other. A dog may believe you if he has learned to pay attention. However, listening requires focus and control. In addition, experience hasn't even entered the discussion.

    So when a dog won't take the cast, where's the real problem?

    Blind faith regards, Jim
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    Compliance Has to enter into this discussion!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    Compliance Has to enter into this discussion!
    I agree with that, otherwise, your just dust in the wind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooseGooser View Post
    Compliance Has to enter into this discussion!
    It definitely does gooser. Would you comply though with your boss if you didn't trust him?I'm the type of individual that wouldn't.....there are others out there that would but not me....I'm like a Peake.haaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by BJGatley View Post
    I agree with that, otherwise, your just dust in the wind.
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