What makes a proven stud? There are lots if different classifications we could consider for that question.
Even though to breed to a proven male is one of the thing I look at, It's not first on my list. when I look at a breeding, first they must match.
Every dog has their strengths and weaknesses. the dogs strengths, must match the bitches weaknesses. I must admit, I do look at other breeding's to see how the pups are doing and I need to see the dog run myself.
Of course, anytime a male wins either one of the Nationals he becomes the flavor of the month. I too have noticed the move to the "hot prospects". In my opinion, the most obvious way to label a sire or dam as "proven" is when one has produced both multiple field trial and hunt test offspring. As far as there not being many proven sires alive, there are several with available semen. The process of AI is quite pricey. I just bred a very nice maiden bitch by way of AI to a select stud (deceased). Why? Because I felt the dog and bitch's personality, desire, and style would nick very well. Plus, Ive always wanted a pup by him out of my bitch. I considered going to one of his sons but decided on going to the "source". As of now, I'm elated with my choice. The next 4 or 5 years will be the determining factor of whether the breeding was successful.
Nice comments everyone!!!
Last edited by David Maddox; 05-09-2014 at 10:55 PM.
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Seems breeding trends Hot-young stud vs. proven producers go in cycles.
Right now there seems to be several young dogs, making waves (people like shiny objects ), and several of the proven dogs are retiring, also getting a bit long in the tooth for natural breeding/switching to frozen AI (available stock becomes an issue). After a dog gets established as a producer; oftentimes convincing a stud owner to even do a breeding becomes a challenge, stud fees go up and owners get picky. Contrary-wise It's in the best interest of young studs owner to strike while his dog is hot; it's a gamble on which dogs will produce and you've got 4-6yrs. before the pups will be ready to show in the Upper-stakes. A young stud owner wants to establish his dog (they have a bunch of stock ); thus they usually offers lower stud fees, will do more breedings; and if a dog is hot people get interested in using untried dogs as studs.
In a few years; some of the few hot-young dogs will become proven-or not; then we'll see a switch toward proven studs, until some new dogs start to make waves.
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