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I actually hate for a dog to shake when it has a bird in it's mouth. It shows disregard of game to me (I have many quirks ), If they're going to shake, I'd rather them to put it down, shake then pick it back up, then shake a bird. Not that I want a dog doing that all the time; only for winter hunting, with a truly dead bird, well away from the blind . That said; HOLD is the command that should be re-enforced, not fetch. If you don't want them to put it down before returning, NO HOLD, if you don't want them to shake until after delivery, as soon as they think about shaking NO HERE, HOLD. Take the bird then step aside, might even send the dog back a few steps (if you want); Then shake you hand a bit (SHAKE), and they learn when they can and can't shake. They pick it up pretty easy once you make it a habit for every retrieve.
Last edited by Hunt'EmUp; 07-01-2014 at 12:34 PM.
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I always looked at strict compliance with here, hold and sit as things that promoted a general benefit to all of our training.
Not sure others feel that way, of course and they probably don't.
I would say in my limited experience shaking on the way back has not been an issue with focus. You have caused me tho think about this issue, however. If you have a dog that may not be quite as steady as you would like (mostly through trainer ignorance), when DO you let the dog shake, because he is going to at some point. I have taken the approach that mine needs to get all his moving (including shaking) done before he sits so we don't have any reason to be moving again unless and until he is sent.
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