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    Quote Originally Posted by John Lash View Post
    Yeah, same thing show me a dog that squats when it doesn't have to "go."
    Come meet my girl. We trained a command when we want the dogs to go potty. Started by accident but works well. Now my girl will "assume the position" knowing it's what I want to see. She doesn't always go. A couple times she was on dry dirt areas and they were still dry when she walked away. She isn't a dog who needs to go a lot, but I still give her lots of opportunities. So she acknowledges my request.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aries View Post
    Teaching the dog not to shake is on my list but I'd would like to take it further and use the hand command as in this video at 1:22 min
    (watch the guy in the boat)
    That's easy, just like teaching your puppy to shake on command by reading your puppy every time he's going to shake and just before he shakes you say "shake" add the hand shaky thing. Do that hundreds or thousands of times starting with a very young pup and most dogs will get the association. Since we don't hear the sound in that video, that hunter probably also said "shake", but we don't know.

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    I actually hate for a dog to shake when it has a bird in it's mouth. It shows disregard of game to me (I have many quirks ), If they're going to shake, I'd rather them to put it down, shake then pick it back up, then shake a bird. Not that I want a dog doing that all the time; only for winter hunting, with a truly dead bird, well away from the blind . That said; HOLD is the command that should be re-enforced, not fetch. If you don't want them to put it down before returning, NO HOLD, if you don't want them to shake until after delivery, as soon as they think about shaking NO HERE, HOLD. Take the bird then step aside, might even send the dog back a few steps (if you want); Then shake you hand a bit (SHAKE), and they learn when they can and can't shake. They pick it up pretty easy once you make it a habit for every retrieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunt'EmUp View Post
    That said; HOLD is the command that should be re-enforced, not fetch. If you don't want them to put it down before returning, NO HOLD, if you don't want them to shake until after delivery, as soon as they think about shaking NO HERE, HOLD. Take the bird then step aside, might even send the dog back a few steps (if you want); Then shake you hand a bit (SHAKE), and they learn when they can and can't shake. They pick it up pretty easy once you make it a habit for every retrieve.
    Can you do that with a land retrieve when the coat is dry?
    Any video clips of the process and end result?
    Love to see it thanks .
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    Quote Originally Posted by RookieTrainer View Post
    This.

    To each his own, of course, but I think I would rather just wear water resistant clothes to training rather than waste a bunch of effort getting my dog to wait until after he sits to shake off. Now dropping the bird is something else entirely and needs to be corrected like John said.
    What would you think if I said I didn't want my dog taking their focus off the task at hand (delivering and getting ready to go for the next bird) to stop and shake Steve?

    I always looked at strict compliance with here, hold and sit as things that promoted a general benefit to all of our training.

    Not sure others feel that way, of course and they probably don't.
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    I would say in my limited experience shaking on the way back has not been an issue with focus. You have caused me tho think about this issue, however. If you have a dog that may not be quite as steady as you would like (mostly through trainer ignorance), when DO you let the dog shake, because he is going to at some point. I have taken the approach that mine needs to get all his moving (including shaking) done before he sits so we don't have any reason to be moving again unless and until he is sent.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarrinGreene View Post
    What would you think if I said I didn't want my dog taking their focus off the task at hand (delivering and getting ready to go for the next bird) to stop and shake Steve?

    I always looked at strict compliance with here, hold and sit as things that promoted a general benefit to all of our training.

    Not sure others feel that way, of course and they probably don't.
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