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    Dennis Voigt from Canada that publishes Retrievers Online is a very successful amateur.

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    The late Bob Larsen had at least 2 FA AFC dogs.

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    I'm surprised no one has mentioned Dennis Bath? His dogs are now and have been for the last several, completely amateur trained and he has made several FC/AFCs. He has 2 young ones right now that are up and coming to be watched and even feared at a trial (sure I am partial, but others have said it as well). I think all of the people mentioned are impressive and should be commended. I am still working on it, but I know it takes ALOT of time and dedication to get a dog to that level. Kudos to you all
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    The list is a short one. Barry Cruickshank in Colorado comes to mind. If you go to most trials you will about 5% of the dogs entered are train by their owners. And wonder why there isn't any help at events? The reasons to name a few the hyper competitive nature of the game, obsessiveness (no it's not addiction)to win, and frankly most can't train a dog at this level. The few that can mostly are retired and have the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Hawkes View Post
    I donno about that. I think Tia, Gracie, Ali, & Holland all do okay. Slider does pretty decent too.
    I don't believe that all of these animals fit the op requirements.
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    I was disputing the part about Am trained are more feared than Ams running their dog that a pro has his hands in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamee Strange View Post
    I'm surprised no one has mentioned Dennis Bath? His dogs are now and have been for the last several, completely amateur trained and he has made several FC/AFCs. He has 2 young ones right now that are up and coming to be watched and even feared at a trial (sure I am partial, but others have said it as well). I think all of the people mentioned are impressive and should be commended. I am still working on it, but I know it takes ALOT of time and dedication to get a dog to that level. Kudos to you all
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    What about the Russells?

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    Al McKean BC Canada has been a very successful amateur in US & Canadian FT

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    For the "old goats" who still frequent RTF , we must realize as the past poll of RTF readers suggested , most here have not or will not run FTs. They are new to the sport compared to the" goats" and live vicariously thru the bloodlines and achievements of FT dogs and their handlers/owners irrespective of who trained them. An old "goat" who will be going out on 8 September for early jump and pass goose hunting with his FT labs.
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