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Thread: ISIS: The first terror group to build an Islamic state?

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    Default ISIS: The first terror group to build an Islamic state?

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/12/world/...rticle_sidebar

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    Or did quiting on a job before it was done leave an opening?
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    Yes.

    And, the Shi'a are armed well enough to take on the Sunni insurgency. They won't fight if they think we will do the fighting for them which is what American NeoCons would like for us to do.

    The Shi'a Kurds are armed to the nines and are willing to take this Sunni insurgency on. However, since we disrupted the balance of power the Kurds may be willing to form an alliance with Iran which is mostly Shi'a. That is unless the Saudis are willing to come up with some cash and troops to keep the Iranians out. But, the Saudis too are looking for America to fight their fight. They gone a great job of manipulating our Foreign Policy in the past and they know they have support for the so-called Conservatives in DC to fight their fight. Though Saudi Arabia is mostly Sunni, the royal family knows that a Sunni government with no king would oust them.
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    This is a big old shi'ite sandwitch that both parties have to take a bite of. Both Republicans and Democrats gooned up the middle east and now we are all going to have to deal with the consequences.
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    If you look it up you will find that the war between Muslims began in Iran when the rebelled against the Shaw! This was when Carter was President, and although the leaders of the radical Muslims where in Iran, in exile, Carter pulled the rug out from under the Shaw, which in turn allowed the rebellion to succeed! That was the beginning of the growth of radical Muslims....

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    Meanwhile there is a whole bunch of our citizens surrounded in Baghdad
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    Quote Originally Posted by freezeland View Post
    Meanwhile there is a whole bunch of our citizens surrounded in Baghdad
    200 American contractor from what I see this morning....I wonder if Obama will 'not leave them behind'....?

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    Aren't the Kurds Christian? I could be wrong. This is very interesting and shows how little we know about managing the Middle East. We took a dictator of a stable regime out and replaced it with a democratic government that the country knew would not last, and trained troops that would not fight to defend it

    How interesting would it be if after this CF we become allies with Iran as we should have been since we screwed mossadegh in the fifties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudminnow View Post
    Aren't the Kurds Christian? I could be wrong. This is very interesting and shows how little we know about managing the Middle East. We took a dictator of a stable regime out and replaced it with a democratic government that the country knew would not last, and trained troops that would not fight to defend it

    How interesting would it be if after this CF we become allies with Iran as we should have been since we screwed mossadegh in the fifties.
    Just read that Iran is willing to do a joint venture on the ISIS thugs.. funny how a common enemy can unite our two countries.. I really feel we need to put a stop to ISIS, less we be attacked by them here on our soil. Let's see how they like some good old American firepower rung down on them.

    Once we drive them out of Iraq we then must keep our spoils of war... the Oil. Work with Iran afterwards to stabilize the area. At least by taking control of the oil, we can pay for the illegal immigrants back home, and for our military intervention.
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    Can anybody give me an example of Western military intervention other than the first Gulf War and the destruction of the Iranian oil platforms that had a positive outcome? I'm having a tough time coming up with one.
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