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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Here's another one that I know a little bit about. The only thing I could readily find is one of the oldest threads remaining on the RTF database!

    http://www.retrievertraining.net/for...on-is-Launched!

    This was NFRA, which ran for a couple years but did not sustain for very long.

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    Too bad this didn't really take off. I thought it was the best thing going and still do. Had a great time at the Colorado test!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    ...... a link from AKC giving some history of AKC hunt tests. It mentions starting with NAHRA and then later going their "separate ways" with the first AKC Hunt Tests in 1985
    this thread has that book http://www.retrievertraining.net/for...hlight=history
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith Stroyan View Post
    Don't believe everything Arnett wrote... but it is funny.

    I had some correspondence with A. Hamilton Rowen in January 1985, but it wasn't entirely polite. If you have a bottle of Lagavulin, I might re-create it .

    The first hunt tests started in 1984 BC. You have to check that on the stone-chisled internet. NAHRA and HRC started something in 1983 AD and AKC joined in. But to my mind it has all evolved away from a hunter and her/his retriever.

    It HAS grown quite large (except for NAHRA.)
    Hi Keith, look at this one from 1998: Page 7 in particular

    http://www.nahra2.info/HistoryProject/NNV-XIII1-1998.pdf

    Do you believe everything those guys wrote?
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    I have two copies of the old AKC Hunting Test Herald that John mentioned AND I have 4 old copies of the Hunt Test News that came about when the AKC Hunt Test Herald bellied up (from what I understand). They need a good home!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris Atkinson View Post
    Do you believe everything those guys wrote?
    Well, of course I believe everything ONE of them wrote.

    (Lots of the stuff in my old attempts at "publicity" embarrass me, but you did a good job at that article. )

    And I believed everything Richard Wolters and Omar Driscol wrote, too. It prepared me to believe everything I read on the www.
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    Hmmm, that history might not be correct cause I talked with a master judge a month or so ago who told me he started in 1961......... Of course he is older than me and I taught Moses when he was a corporal but that shouldn't change the story. BSEG!
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    Do you really want to increase entries at the Junior Hunt Test level? Simply put a limit on entries and everyone will flock to JR and fight over how to get in and what to change to make it fair for all !!!!!

    "Duck hunter's minds are like concrete. All mixed up and permanently set."

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    Omar has a hysterical letter he showed me at the HRC National a few years ago to him from the AKC saying "There is no market or interest for a non-field trial retriever event. If there were, we would be doing it." Oh how the AKC changed its tune quickly.
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    Apparently you can teach an old dog something new if there is a reward !

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