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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Allen View Post
    I've just thought that without a gun station out handling is less effective. I'm probably wrong based on your response. I would love to hear more.
    It appears that there are two separate issues, did the dog remember the mark or did it just cave in to wind, terrain, etc. There is no single answer and each incident of this type should be viewed independently. If the retired gun mark is difficult it would probably be best to just let the dog find the bird the route notwithstanding. If the error is egregious or repetitive handling to the mark and repeating might be the best choice. Under almost no circumstances would I recall the dog as someone suggested. If the dog is a novice with retired gun marks I would not do a difficult one particularly one that requires negotiating difficult terrain and/or a big crosswind.

    P.S. I rarely post on training issues anymore because it generally results in a debate in which I have no interest in participating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdA View Post
    It appears that there are two separate issues, did the dog remember the mark or did it just cave in to wind, terrain, etc. There is no single answer and each incident of this type should be viewed independently. If the retired gun mark is difficult it would probably be best to just let the dog find the bird the route notwithstanding. If the error is egregious or repetitive handling to the mark and repeating might be the best choice. Under almost no circumstances would I recall the dog as someone suggested. If the dog is a novice with retired gun marks I would not do a difficult one particularly one that requires negotiating difficult terrain and/or a big crosswind.

    P.S. I rarely post on training issues anymore because it generally results in a debate in which I have no interest in participating.
    I don't see how anybody could debate that good advice.

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    justin,
    it's a good thing you didn't ask some of your other training partners their opinion on the topic. here is a discussion i had with one of our training partners who has actually titled dogs in ft's. i asked, "i have a question. mcclendon says dillard and i handle too often on marks. dillard and i say mcclendon doesn't handle enough on marks. who is right?" everyone knows his answer. it came without hesitation, "you are both right!"
    john mccallie

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