The RetrieverTraining.Net Forums The Retriever Academy
Total Retriever Training with Mike Lardy
Hawkeye Media Gunners Up Tritronics Outdoor Media
Page 3 of 11 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 21 to 30 of 105

Thread: The stock market--Democrats vs. Republicans

  1. #21
    Senior Member Franco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Lafayette, La.
    Posts
    10,768

    Default

    Paulson and Bernanke's policies helped create the mess in the first place!

    Bernanke is the reason why interest rates are stuck so damn low! As the Chief Financial Terrorist of the Fed, no other has done more damage to the value of the Dollar!

    His loyalties are not with the American worker or tax payer but with European bankers!
    Last edited by Franco; 07-13-2014 at 06:56 PM.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

  2. #22
    Senior Member Buzz's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2005
    Location
    Brookings, South Dakota
    Posts
    6,802

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Paulson and Bernanke's policies helped create the mess in the first place!

    Bernanke is the reason why interest rates are stuck so damn low! As the Chief Financial Terrorist of the Fed, no other has done more damage to the value of the Dollar!

    His loyalties are not with the American worker or tax payer but with European bankers!

    Then thank God for Bernanke.
    "For everyone to whom much is given, of him shall much be required." -- Luke 12:48

    Raven - Moneybird's Black Magic Marker***
    (Esprit's Power Play x Trumarc's Lean Cuisine)
    Mick - Moneybird's Jumpin' Jack Flash***
    (Clubmead's Road Warrior x Oakdale Whitewater Devil Dog)
    Peerless - Moneybird's Sole Survivor
    (Two River's Lucky Willie x Moneybird's Black Magic Marker)

  3. #23
    Senior Member Franco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Lafayette, La.
    Posts
    10,768

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
    Then thank God for Bernanke.
    Interest rates should be determined by the Free Market and not some guru that thinks he knows better than market forces.

    Zero return on savings forces some to make risky investments in the market instead of receiving a decent return on savings.

    By making savings less attractive, it will allow more money to be stolen by Wall St during the next correction.

    Wall St types like Bin Bernanke don't want people saving money because it is much harder for his buddies to get their hands on.
    Last edited by Franco; 07-13-2014 at 08:31 PM.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

  4. #24
    Senior Member menmon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,291

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    Interest rates should be determined by the Free Market and not some guru that thinks he knows better than market forces.

    Zero return on savings forces some to make risky investments in the market instead of receiving a decent return on savings.

    By making savings less attractive, it will allow more money to be stolen by Wall St during the next correction.
    They are controlled by the market only interest rates they control is fed funds and the discount rate and those are overnight borrowing rates. The rest are clearly in the hands of the market. So in less you are borrowing overnight from a bank, they do not effect you.

  5. #25
    Senior Member Franco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Lafayette, La.
    Posts
    10,768

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    They are controlled by the market only interest rates they control is fed funds and the discount rate and those are overnight borrowing rates. The rest are clearly in the hands of the market. So in less you are borrowing overnight from a bank, they do not effect you.
    They most certainly do affect me. The artificially low interest rates was the prime reason the housing bubble had gotten so out of hand. Money was artificially cheap and therefore abused. That's just ONE example. Not to mention that it killed Savings.

    The USSR failed because they could not determine the price of bread. I fear we will end because we can not determine the value of the dollar. Free Market would put an end to Fed manipulation because lets face it, they can't get anything correct!
    Last edited by Franco; 07-13-2014 at 08:45 PM.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

  6. #26
    Senior Member menmon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,291

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    They most certainly do affect me. The artificially low interest rates was the prime reason the housing bubble had gotten so out of hand. Money was artificially cheap and therefore abused. That's just ONE example. Not to mention that it killed Savings.

    The USSR failed because they could not determine the price of bread. I fear we will end because we can not determine the value of the dollar. Free Market would put an end to Fed manipulation because lets face it, they can't get anything correct!
    Americans are saving more today they ever before. Why to you think the DOW is at 17000...savings....why are interest rates so low is the savings of people buying bonds.....

  7. #27
    Senior Member menmon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    2,291

    Default

    If no one was buying them they would have to pay a higher rate to get people to buy them.

  8. #28
    Senior Member Franco's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Lafayette, La.
    Posts
    10,768

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    Americans are saving more today they ever before. Why to you think the DOW is at 17000...savings....why are interest rates so low is the savings of people buying bonds.....
    That is not Savings, that is Investment!

    The Dow is at 17,000 because Wall St doesn't have anywhere else to go with fiat money. Like I wrote earlier, Savings earns zero and forces people to play Wall St's game. Not many like me that just have it all in a Money Market account than let it be stolen in the near future by Wall St in a huge correction.
    It's time we abandon our party affiliations and rather than being good Dems or good Repubs we all become good Americans. MJH345

  9. #29
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Lebanon, OH
    Posts
    726

    Default

    The bond market loves a bad economy and has been on a rally since the first of the year. At the same time the market has been doing well and they tend to go in opposite directions. So who is right? Bond markets tend to be more logical.

    Certain bond bear shares are a pretty good buy currently
    Last edited by Dan Storts; 07-13-2014 at 10:08 PM.

  10. #30
    Senior Member dback's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    arizona
    Posts
    967

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Franco View Post
    The Dow is at 17,000 because Wall St doesn't have anywhere else to go with fiat money.
    Putin meets Wed with leaders of Brazil, India, China, South Africa, Chile, Argentina & Venezuela…….so much for keeping him isolated. The days of 'fiat' money "will" end……wish I knew the exact date.
    "What a difference a week makes. This week I feel like a football coach. Last week I felt like Britney Spears' choreographer."
    Coach Bob Green, Montana Tech

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •