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    What's the youngest you would get prelim hips and elbows done on a pup? Or just be patient and wait til 2 years? No issues with the pup, just paranoid due to previous dogs with bad hips in the past. Thanks

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    Personally have never done prelim's, have always waited to 24 months ... So I am sure that others will chime in but have heard of people doing them at 12 - 18 months.
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    I just went through this not too long ago. I had my dogs prelims done at 16 months but I think by 12 months they will be able to tell if there is going to be an issue.

    I will say this though. I had the x rays looked at by several vets because the original vet said they would probably come back "mild", which is heartbreaking but the other actual orthopedic vets said that prelims are useless unless you know for a fact you had a perfect position of the joints. Two of the ortho vets I spoke with said they won't even do prelims because they mean nothing.

    Me personally, I think you can learn a lot from prelims because if there is a question about the hips, you can adjust your training and the way you handle the dog to prevent any damage in the future. I stopped doing all intense land work and focused a lot on water work because of my particular situation.

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    I did shoulders, hips and elbows at 13 months on my two males. I wanted to make sure there were no real issues before I started pushing them harder in the field. At that age, both rec'd a permanent shoulder OFA number with a normal and a preliminary good hip and normal elbows.

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    The OFA's website is a pretty good resource to answer questions about OFA. PennHip has plenty of info about their process as well.

    From OFA's site re; prelims on hips: "Frequently, breeders want early knowledge of the hip status on puppies in a given litter. Preliminary hip evaluations may be as valuable to the owner or breeder as the final OFA evaluation. This allows early selection of dogs for use as show/performance/breeding prospects and dogs best suited for pet homes.

    The OFA accepts preliminary consultation radiographs on puppies as young as 4 months of age for evaluation of hip conformation. If the dog is found to be dysplastic at an early age, the economic loss from the cost of training, handling, showing and so forth can be minimized and the emotional loss reduced. These preliminary radiographs are read by the OFA veterinary radiologists and are not sent to outside radiologists. The same hip grades are given to preliminary cases.

    A recent publication* compared the reliability of the preliminary evaluation hip grade phenotype with the 2 year old evaluation in dogs and there was 100% reliability for a preliminary grade of excellent being normal at 2 years of age (excellent, good, or fair). There was 97.9% reliability for a preliminary grade of good being normal at 2 years of age, and 76.9% reliability for a preliminary grade of fair being normal at 2 years of age. Reliability of preliminary evaluations increased as age at the time of preliminary evaluation increased, regardless of whether dogs received a preliminary evaluation of normal hip conformation or HD. For normal hip conformations, the reliability was 89.6% at 3-6 months, 93.8% at 7-12 months, and 95.2% at 13-18 months. These results suggest that preliminary evaluations of hip joint status in dogs are generally reliable. However, dogs that receive a preliminary evaluation of fair or mild hip joint conformation should be reevaluated at an older age (24 months). "

    *Corley, EA, et al. Reliability of Early Radiographic Evaluation for Canine Hip Dysplasia Obtained from the Standard Ventrodorsal Radiographic Projection. JAVMA. Vol 211, No. 9, November 1997.
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    I guess it depends. I do PennHip at 6 months, plus my vet takes an OFA view/shot also just for kicks. I want to have a warm and fuzzy prior to sending them off for Basics...lots of money can be spent on training a dog and after having a bad experience with very poor positioning for a set of OFA X-rays at 2 years, I'll never send a puppy out until I have a pennHip done.
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    The best age is at 2 years. This is the age where the OFA can certify the dogs hips.

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    I do prelims on my dogs to be sure we don't have any issues before we invest lots of time/money/emotion into a dog. Normally I do them at 12 months, but I did one last fall at 9 months before he went to the trainer for evaluation prior to the winter trip. He looked excellent by the way.

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    I have always done them about 8 mos, but the last time I went in, my vet said really he'd prefer I wait til closer to 1 yr. So thats what I'll do in the future- I like to know before I get too attached,and invest a lot of $ .
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    thanks for the feedback. i will be at the vet tomorrow so i will discuss it with him but probably will do the prelim in the 6-12 month range.

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