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Thread: Dog Info - Where Else Do I Look??

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    OK, so I'm trying to help a guy I know get some info on the dog he bought (without asking advice from at least two of us who could have steered him in the right direction of course).

    He bought a lab puppy with AKC paperwork and that is really all he knows. I looked up the sire and dam on Entry Express and came up with nothing. I looked them up on huntinglabpedigree.com and found nothing. I Googled their names and found nothing relevant. Where else should I look? I went to huntsecretary.com but it doesn't look like they have a searchable database like EE does. Both registered names sound like the dogs were named with the intention of being hunting dogs. There is no kennel name in either name. Any other ideas?

    I figured it was a long shot that I might find out anything about the sire and dam but I thought it was worth a shot. He intends to train it to hunt, but who knows whether he will follow through with it.

    Thanks in advance.
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    www.offa.org with their registered names will at least give you some clearances if they have any, and pedigree behind them if their predecessors are on there, though it won't give titles, you can at least look them up. If they aren't on OFA, probably not going to find out much about them other than ordering pedigree from AKC.
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    At this point what does it matter? Pedigree is needed before the purchase. At this point I would just start preparing to training.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Henlee View Post
    At this point what does it matter? Pedigree is needed before the purchase. At this point I would just start preparing to training.
    It just matters because I told him I would try to find out what I could. I told him that if either of them had run hunt tests I might be able to find it and then I might be able to find out more about their respective pedigrees. I'm trying to give the kid some good advice, training advice, etc., but I've tried before and it doesn't seem to stick. You are right though, genetically he has whatever he has.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rainmaker View Post
    www.offa.org with their registered names will at least give you some clearances if they have any, and pedigree behind them if their predecessors are on there, though it won't give titles, you can at least look them up. If they aren't on OFA, probably not going to find out much about them other than ordering pedigree from AKC.
    Thanks for the suggestion. Nothing there. I'm sure he didn't pay much so I wasn't expecting health clearances. He told me he was worried whether or not she would have good hips and I was telling him about health clearances (which I'm pretty sure I mentioned after he bought his last puppy) and it was all new info to him...
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    If the dog is registered, he can get a 3 or 4 generation pedigree from AKC. About $15 for an online pedigree or about $35 for a hard copy. If the sire and dam were hunting dogs (or mill dogs) that might be the only way to get back far enough for any other DBs to do any good
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    You can buy a research pedigree online foe $15 from akc... http://classic.akc.org/shop/index.cfm

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBnumber1 View Post
    If the dog is registered, he can get a 3 or 4 generation pedigree from AKC. About $15 for an online pedigree or about $35 for a hard copy. If the sire and dam were hunting dogs (or mill dogs) that might be the only way to get back far enough for any other DBs to do any good
    Right, he is going to get the pedigree once he registers the pup. He hasn't decided on a registered name yet, just a call name.

    No big deal, I just wasn't sure whether there was some other place to look (for free).
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    You might try k9data.com
    Labradors are not as complete as Goldens but it's worth a try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swampcollie View Post
    You might try k9data.com
    Labradors are not as complete as Goldens but it's worth a try.
    Thanks. They aren't there either. Probably just a pet quality situation although I guess they could be HRC dogs since EE doesn't do that many HRC tests.
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