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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    Relative to the folks that have influence...I should be sleeping under a bridge!
    Please STOP you are insulting my intelligence and making a mockery of yourself.....How many dogs did you double stake at the last trial ? I know its $386 bucks because I just did it last weekend...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BonMallari View Post
    Please STOP you are insulting my intelligence and making a mockery of yourself.....How many dogs did you double stake at the last trial ? I know its $386 bucks because I just did it last weekend...
    I never said that I did not have a comfortable life. What I said was I do not have financial influence past my local commissioner.

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    What I do have is the ability to benefit from those that make the rules, even if I don't agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    Relative to the folks that have influence...I should be sleeping under a bridge!
    Indeed, the whole 1%er thing is a crock! Spreads and dilutes responsibility so the .001% can feel safe. 85 individuals control 50% of the worlds wealth, the other 7 billion-85 of us share the rest. If politicians talked about directly taxing the .001% who truly control the world, they would be removed from office before an impeachment committee could arrange their seating plan.
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    The problem is both conservatives and liberal are leashed to the deep pockets. They control our gov like puppets. If you don't do the bidding of the big lobby groups you lose your job and most politicians can't work in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvin S View Post
    Gerry, I believe that Ross Perot would have won had he not dropped out & then re-entered
    at a late date - He said what the nation wanted to hear - & got Clinton elected -
    That is a laugh.....he was worse than the other guy with funny ears.....although he had little competition......!

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    This is being used in today's Money Bomb quite effectively.

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    You can't hitch it to a wagon and make it work like a Donkey
    You can't put your hands on It
    ... You can tell it what to do but it probably won't listen
    You can't tax it
    The best thing you can do is to just leave it alone!

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    Had you read the article instead of getting all excited, you would have read that after 40 years, Libertarians can no longer call themselves Conservative because the meaning of Conservative has changed. Conservative use to mean smaller Federal government and more Freedom. Today, Conservative means bigger Federal Government and less Freedom!

    This means the wrong people are running the right winged party. IMO

    In Canada, we had a Reform Party start in 1996 by 2000 they were no longer. They believed in free trade, decentralizing government, reducing size, scope and cost of our government. They ended up joining forces with another conservative group. Now they are the Conservative Party of Canada. Thank God they are in power.
    I look at people as either right winged or left winged. Left wingers don't want guns and blame those that want guns for all the troubles we have (gangs and violence), when really it is the left winger's socialism and their left winged nature that causes the issues.
    Franco I know you are a die hard Libertarian but it is a long road you have to go on to get to the top. You might work on changing those right wingers in power to think like you instead of starting at the bottom! IMHO
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    Quote Originally Posted by menmon View Post
    I never said that I did not have a comfortable life. What I said was I do not have financial influence past my local commissioner.
    You said you were poor. But based on the logic you use when presenting your opinion on every other issue here, I imagine you probably believe that you ARE poor. Liberal thought requires the willful rejection of reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mary Lynn Metras View Post
    Had you read the article instead of getting all excited, you would have read that after 40 years, Libertarians can no longer call themselves Conservative because the meaning of Conservative has changed. Conservative use to mean smaller Federal government and more Freedom. Today, Conservative means bigger Federal Government and less Freedom!

    This means the wrong people are running the right winged party. IMO

    In Canada, we had a Reform Party start in 1996 by 2000 they were no longer. They believed in free trade, decentralizing government, reducing size, scope and cost of our government. They ended up joining forces with another conservative group. Now they are the Conservative Party of Canada. Thank God they are in power.
    I look at people as either right winged or left winged. Left wingers don't want guns and blame those that want guns for all the troubles we have (gangs and violence), when really it is the left winger's socialism and their left winged nature that causes the issues.
    Franco I know you are a die hard Libertarian but it is a long road you have to go on to get to the top. You might work on changing those right wingers in power to think like you instead of starting at the bottom! IMHO
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    I could take the path of least resistance and keep quiet about what's going on in the world. Sometimes that has great appeal. But then I think about the injustice inflicted on the victims of systematic, mechanized, and legal aggression by our government (random street crime is bad enough). I think, "I wouldn't want to be in their place" ó but then I recall that as a taxpayer and as one otherwise subject to state aggression, I am in their place, if to a lesser extent. I think of how people are kept poor (or poorer) and miserable by the most common forms of political imposition, and how insult is added to injury by telling the victims it's really for their own good.

    Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery. Calvin Coolidge



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