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    New to the forum and my first go around teaching "Hold" and force fetch myself. I have a 9 month old german pointer, his "hold" is good (doesn't drop it until told) but it is a loose. I can lightly tap on either end of the dowel and he'll teeth it or mouth it so it won't drop but it's still loose. He's retrieved live birds and he's soft mouth. My question is, is this an issue? Should he be more firm with his hold? If so will repetitiveness with pressure (hand under the chin and hand on the snout) fix it. I'm 5 days in on the "Hold" command.

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    Count your blessings.
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    when I say I'm 5 days in I mean with a dowel, already have a week or so with a glove under the belt

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    Can you receive PMs? I could send you a list of drills that I use.
    Last edited by gdgnyc; 08-05-2014 at 05:29 PM.
    "I love the rod and gun and where they take me."

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    yea should be able too send em my way, appreciate it

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    Thank ya sir, I'll give that a try. Another question if you don't mind. I'm following Freddy King's method from Sport Dog Collars, he says no bumper retrieves until force fetch is complete. What are your thoughts on this "yay or nay". My dog has no issues with drive at all. But I wanted to do some tune up training with retrieves in a couple weeks. I live in texas and dove season starts September 1 followed by teal season September 13

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    I have many materials dealing with training retrievers. When I use one I don't like to deviate from what the author suggests. That being said, in the past most would have said no retrieving at all until FF was done, end of story. I used to follow this advice. My current dog was trained and FFed by using another resource and I used this one just because the author said you could continue retrieving work. However, one is not to use the fetch command in the field until FF was done.

    Bottom line, I would follow the advice given in your resource, i.e. Freddy King. If I get a chance, I will take a look at his video to see what he does.
    "I love the rod and gun and where they take me."

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    thanks for all the info George, you've been a big help

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    Sounds like your question has been answered but a golden rule to dog training is this.... Never use a command that you cannot enforce. If your dog is not force fetched and he may not deliver to hand when playing fetch, I would not play fetch. Good Luck!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by c'neale View Post
    thanks for all the info George, you've been a big help
    You are welcome, c'neale.
    "I love the rod and gun and where they take me."

    "Do not judge a man until you have walked two moons in his moccasins."

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