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    Dam had a c-section to have pups yesterday and all pups are active and healthy. However, dam is very nervous and keeps removing the pups from the whelping box. As long as they are nursing on her she is fine but if they pile up in the corner, she starts removing them. I have to return to work tomorrow but my husband can check on them every couple of hours. The whelping box is located in the spare bedroom and she would nest in it prior to whelping. I have heard this is common but am wondering if there is anything I can do. The room has tile floor and I am scared pups will get to chilled on it. Short of laying something on the floor, I am not sure what to do to get her to leave the babies in the whelping box
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    Calcium. Start giving her Tums, approx. 3-4 (1200mg total) at a time. Yogurt, ice cream, anything rich in calcium right now.

    I use this http://www.revivalanimal.com/Breeder...?sku=63210-493 during whelping and this
    http://www.amazon.com/Pet-Tabs-Plus-.../dp/B00061MRSG
    afterwards until weaning.
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    Agree with Laura. Plenty of calcium.
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    Yes calcium and nutritious calories, as stated above.
    You are right to be concerned, this does happen frequently and may take a few days with calcium and nutrition and supervision to normalize. So you may need 24/7 monitoring right now. Can you hire someone until Mom starts feeling normal for the hours you and your husband are not available?

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    Calcium yes, but are the puppies laying on a bare floor? If so you may need to get them on a blanket. Or do you have a heat lamp on them, if so maybe they are to hot? You need to get a thermometer in there and find out what the temperature is. I believe they need a temperature in the high 80's or 90's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longgun View Post
    I believe they need a temperature in the high 80's or 90's.
    Only if you want them to scream. I rarely, if ever, use a heat source even in the dead of winter. Mom is usually enough to keep a litter of Labs warm while in the house.

    The symptoms the OP is describing is classic for low calcium levels.

    Yes calcium and nutritious calories, as stated above.
    You are right to be concerned, this does happen frequently and may take a few days with calcium and nutrition and supervision to normalize. So you may need 24/7 monitoring right now. Can you hire someone until Mom starts feeling normal for the hours you and your husband are not available?


    Agree 100%. There is no way I'd leave mom and the pups alone right now. Hire someone to watch them if you need to.
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    Calcuim. Citracal 400 mg (calcium citrate). I buy the petites as they are easier to get them to swallow. I give 3 to 4 tablets twice a day.
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    Cant add anything - but I will agree- supplement with calcium. You can get a big plastic container of Tums(store brand ) for about 2.00. Two twice a day is what I gave my girls. Makes a huge difference!!
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    Enclose whelping box with kennel panels to keep her and the pups in where they belong.
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    I want to thank everyone for the advise. I got some Tums (all they had was 750 mg) and gave two. A couple of hours later and I can tell a minor difference of when she is out of the whelping box she is not panting like she was, not whining as much either. She seems to be a little more relaxed overall but still a nervous mess about the babies. The emergency vet was no help, they didn't think it was calcium and apparently did not have a test for it. They told me to leave her in a quiet secluded room. I told them that when she is alone is when she is most anxious and starts trying to remove the babies. So then they tell me I can give her Tums if I want to. My regular vet will be open tomorrow and I will call them first thing in the morning. Thanks again, you guys know your stuff
    Tina Perron
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