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Thread: AKC Hunt Test Judging Sheets

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    Should handlers be allowed to take a picture of their score sheet after an AKC hunt test? Please give info to support your position.
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    Without an understanding of any individual judges shorthand. A snapshot of the page will be nothing more than a glance at hieroglyphs. I do feel that handlers should be able to discuss the sheets. Not at the running line but by going through the proper protocol, after the test with an offering of cold bier or other alms.
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    Ken,
    Assume you're using "bier" in the German definition.
    Agree. The rules allow the handler to view his/her score sheet. Nothing about sharing that with the world.
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    I know for myself, as a new handler in the game, I like to see the sheets. I find it helpful to know the types of things the judges are actually looking for and actually seeing. Unless something is clearly contentious, I don't think I would ever argue a point on a score sheet, but I do like understanding how the judges minds work. Over time, at higher levels, I will probably start keeping a log of what different judges deem important, and use that information as a focus point for training prior to running under them. Just my uneducated opinion.
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    I would imagine that it would be up to the individual judge, as to whether they allow a handler to photo the sheets. As long as they are only taking the sheet from their dog, what's the issue? If you are a judge, and can't stand behind the scoresheet that you filled out for a particular dog, then you shouldn't be judging....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    ....As long as they are only taking the sheet from their dog, what's the issue? ....
    Imagin Monday mornings on the RTF. Somebody typing "My dog clearly went over the point in this test and the judge did not even draw the point!" and on and on....

    or pointing out math errors!!!
    those poor akc judges need an abacus at the line these days 'cause of that no distracting electric device rule
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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    If you are a judge, and can't stand behind the scoresheet that you filled out for a particular dog, then you shouldn't be judging....
    I couldn't agree more! It's like taking a test at school and never knowing what you got right/wrong. I think they should be handed out at the ribbon ceremony. However, there will always be those that get mad and with social media now it will be everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stonybrook View Post
    Should handlers be allowed to take a picture of their score sheet after an AKC hunt test? Please give info to support your position.
    At an A.K.C. Obedience event the judges sheets are posted for all to view after the class. This will tell the handler where they lost points and hopefully improve.

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    View and discuss yes , but I agree the interpretation ,after the fact, without explanation from the judge could vary wildly. NO NEED for THAT. No Pictures
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    Quote Originally Posted by Labs View Post
    I would imagine that it would be up to the individual judge, as to whether they allow a handler to photo the sheets. As long as they are only taking the sheet from their dog, what's the issue? If you are a judge, and can't stand behind the scoresheet that you filled out for a particular dog, then you shouldn't be judging....
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