Every venue has it's pitfalls. I trained for a few years with some HRC folks. The work looked very simplistic for my all-age trained dogs. One a 7 year old, the other a six year old. We had run many master tests over the years and titled six or seven including a couple of passes on a FC/AFC and four passes on another AFC. Back to HRC, was told by the group my dogs could easily pass the finished test and should enter them. After a few weeks of training they set up four wingers and wanted to know if I wanted singles, said shoot the quad. My 7 year old over ran each mark by probably 50 to 100 yards and would have kept going if I had not did a couple of whistle stops. Hmm! those silent throws needed some work. I again with a big ego, was told to enter a finished test. They forgot to say they do "hot blinds", geeze before I knew it my dog got the hot blind. Oh , forgot to load the gun, forgot to make it "open and safe". Now the group saw I was serious and began to teach me how to swing the gun, follow the arc for the silent throws, shooting from the line. I passed the next finished and with the HRC group helped me put two HRCH titles on two dogs, both AKC Master Hunters. It wasn't all bad for this rookie, because my trial trained dogs lined most of the blinds, land and water, so that was fruitful for me. The last finished test I ran, my dog put on the ugliest triple with hunts I had ever seen, and I was happy. One of the guys told me that was terrible. and why was I happy? I responded it was the first triple I had run at a test where he hunted all three birds and didn't overrun! Sometimes it aint all about the training, it's about the teamwork with you and the dog. That's my HRC story , great folks, serious dog people and hunters all or mostly all. The moral of the story , each venue is different, and you can't compare apples and oranges,but, you can enjoy your dog sport.