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    Default Black pups coat turning brown?

    I got a black female from a Maestro litter (Black dam and chocolate sire) and looks like her coat is getting browner everyday. The only other time I have seen this is during the summer when my other pups jet black coat got a little sun bleached. The weather here hasn't turned around enough for that to happen and she stays in the house.

    It makes no difference to me. Especually since she has been doing great on her training. Ha!

    But have any of you guys seen this before or have experience with this?
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    She is probably getting ready to loose her winter coat. Just a guess though. Mine is starting to her winter coat already.

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    Cheap dog food? Just this morning I read about a study in which low levels of phenylalanine and tyrosine lead to orangish tinting in the coat of black cats. I think this is true of dogs, too, but I can't find a reference.

    Edit: There's something about it in this article: http://www.edliny.com/Encyclopedy/Ve...ocus/181/6.pdf. It references a small 2002 study on dogs.
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    Yep. Getting ready to loose their winter coat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mitty View Post
    Cheap dog food? Just this morning I read about a study in which low levels of phenylalanine and tyrosine lead to orangish tinting in the coat of black cats. I think this is true of dogs, too, but I can't find a reference.

    Edit: There's something about it in this article: http://www.edliny.com/Encyclopedy/Ve...ocus/181/6.pdf. It references a small 2002 study on dogs.
    ......and written by a specific dog food employee.
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    Peter,

    I've got a bitch who's coat color trends toward reddish brown each spring as she begins to shed her coat. Her undercoat is a different hue from her top coat. Labs without a good undercoat won't show this and typically have a shinier jet black coat.

    I've also heard about inadequate nutrition causing this, but I don't think it's always responsible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas D View Post
    ......and written by a specific dog food employee.
    And?

    The nutritional causes of coat color depigmentation they mention are discussed in standard dog and cat nutrition books, which most of us don't own. I thought the article I linked to has some good information about coat health; I thought it was pretty easy to understand without special training. Anyone who is skeptical can read the the research articles listed at the end. They are a place to start, anyhow.

    So many of us struggle keeping our dogs healthy. Poor coat is a sign of poor health. I have no idea if this is what is going on with the OP's dogs, it is just a possibility to consider. He is concerned enough to post a question about it, afterall.
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    Because it's written by a high priced dog food company. Do you think they spent money on research and writing this arrival to not sell more of their dog food. Come on its a commercial and old at that.

    The pup is probably just losing some coat. Why does it have to turn into a dog food issue.
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    I bred a black to a chocolate sire, two of the pups, had coats like you describe the others were all black. I color tested the female I kept, her father was chocolate , her mother carries yellow & chocolate. The red headed black female carried chocolate which I knew but also yellow. The yellow gene is responsible for red pigmentation, so perhaps you've got a trifactored girl. Just get ready for the Brown/black questions, answer is SHE'S BLACK, unless she messes up then she's chocolate.
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    Yeah, in my black male who is chocolate factored. I did cry learning he was defective. In his case he has always had high quality food.
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