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    First of all let me say that I am deeply saddened by the tragedy that took place at Virginia Tech yesterday and that my prayers go out to all involved. The following is in no way meant to demean anything that happened yesterday, but is a commentary on what our society has become.
    While watching the events unfold yesterday I was struck by the notion that our media has become the single biggest threat to our way of life today. As soon as the news of the killings began to break, the press was there. What is wrong with this you may ask? Nothing if they are there to cover the breaking news, however, while the bullets were still flying there are already reporters asking why? How? Who’s fault? And Why wasn’t something done to prevent this from happening? Some of these are legitimate new questions, at least how and why, but when did it become the medias job to investigate a crime and place blame on someone? The key issue here being placing blame on SOMEONE, and the someone being a person/persons or organization other than the shooter! If I heard the question “why were the students not notified sooner?” once, I heard it a thousand times. Why do we need to blame someone other than the pos gunman that did the killing? Would it have been nice to be able to warn everyone? Yes. Could it have been done? I do not think so. VT has 26,000 students, 5000+ employees, and 2000 daily visitors. Of the 26,000 students, 9000 live on campus. Will someone please explain to me exactly how you would go about notifying over 30,000 people about something that happens as fast as a shooting, even one that takes an extended amount of time? I have seen numerous reporters ask why officials did not “lock the campus down”. I would think most reporters had to attend college and should realize that this is not an elementary school that has a chain link fence around it and 200 students inside. I have not been to VT, but I have been on many other campuses and all that I have been too are very much like a small town. How would you lock down something such as this? Why can’t the press just point the finger where blame belongs, at the shooter?
    I watched Matt Lauer (sic?) this morning grilling the president of VT about the above questions. Why didn’t you do more? Why was this allowed to happen? I had a hard time keeping my breakfast down. Last week we got to watch as the media destroyed the career of a man for simplify doing what he has done forever (Don Imus). I am not saying he was right or wrong, just that he was tried and convicted in the media. Imus broke no laws and in fact was fired for exercising his freedom of speech. I am quite sure it is not against the law to say “nappy headed hos” on the radio or anywhere else for that matter. I can tell you from the cars that pull up beside me blaring rap music that it is not even against the law to say nigger. Had the media not picked up on what he said (several days later I might ad) and played it on every news outlet in the country the man would still be doing what he always had been (argue that him not doing what he does is a good thing if you wish, but again freedom of speech is something you have no control over and you are always free to switch stations and not listen). I do not like a lot of things that are said by a lot of people and I just don’t listen. I don’t waste my time trying to force my beliefs or morals on the people that say or listen to things I do not like. Lets see how much heat the VT president takes from this event and if the press can try and convict this man for not doing enough. My prediction is that the president and others will be forced to resign over this. What a shame that we have become a country that cannot think for ourselves and have to rely on sensationalist to tell us what we should be outraged about.
    Below are a couple of headlines that are out there today that illustrate the medias witch-hunt attitude that is standard operating procedure for the press these days.

    WP: Would more have survived if campus officials acted sooner?

    More on Shootings
    • Newsweek: Campus was fearful, even before Monday
    Search for answers after rampage

    BLACKSBURG, Va. - Police and university authorities faced pressure Tuesday to explain how a gunman apparently evaded detection after killing two people and then went on to kill 30 others two hours later in America’s worst shooting rampage.

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    I agree with your thoughts. Why is a college any different from any other town (when your college has that many people in it that is essentially what it is, a town)? If there was a shooting in downtown Charlotte today are the police expected to put 2000+ surrounding acres into lock down? I don't know all of the details, but was there any evidence present to warn the police that this individual was going to start a killing spree after the initial shooting in the morning?

    I hate all of the second guessing and crucifiction that our media does. How about reporting the facts and leave the critique to someone who knows what the hell they are talking about?
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    I was outraged as well when I heard the news. The tragic senseless loss of life. All those young people who's bright future was cut so short. The problem is, when in the VERY FIRST MOMENT I heard the news and became outraged. It was not over the tragic senseless loss of life, that came in the second moment. It was "Dammit yet another incident that will f*c$ me and other responsible gun owners across the country!" I know..... I'm going to Hell.
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    I agree with your point that the media has become too influencial and too self absorbed. The advent of 24/7 news converage any a story is getting out of hand. I remember when JFK Jr's plane went down and we got non stop coverage of the story as they looked for the wreck. I thought to myself, WHY do we need so much excessive coverage. I think it is partially to be in control of what we watch, but also to get ratings, it boils down to money and control. I am sure that the media and the anti-gun people will try to spin this tragedy to take away more of our freedoms. How many more laws would have stopped the gunman, none. No matter how many video monitors you have it is not rocket science to hide a gun and start shooting long before any authorities could respond. We are responsible for our ouwn safety NO ONE else can GUARANTEE safety. But hold on for the huge anti gun push we are going to see now, if they would only enforce tha laws we have and let law abiding citizens alone. Law abiding citizens are the only ones who will obey the laws so we have the ability to protect ourselves removed while the criminals get more leeway since they do not have to worry about "us".
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    And a couple of other things...gun control was brought up last night and whether this incident would put that topic in the forefront again...

    But my favorite: Will there be copycats? If the idea was not already in some sick person's mind, the media helps them along by introducing the idea with all of the notoriety...
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    Did you get a chance to listen to the students. I watched a little of CNN last night and every student I heard was articulate and well spoken. The interviewer tried to pidgeon hole them into saying that the administration had done something wrong, had not warned them sooner, had not blocked off campus. Each student said there was no way it was anyone's fault but the guy who pulled the trigger.

    CNN then flashed to commercial, on the way it showed an note saying that a teenager in Va could purchase a gun. What does that have to do with the horrible events at VT? I don't have children yet but I would certainly rather have my teenager with a gun out in the woods than standing on a street corner. It is really sad that we have gotten to this point, it always has to be someone's fault. Those poor kids, all they were doing was going to school.

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    As usual, the news media is trying to place blame on someone.
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    This is one (link below) that is really making me sick. It is a report on how OTHER COUNTRIES think our gun laws are the problem. I don’t give a flying rats butthole if India, England, France, or Australia thinks there way of doing things is better than ours. Last I remember that is the reason we broke away for Europe a couple of centuries ago.
    When I read this I said something about guns not killing people… A girl in the office started in on anti gun rhetoric and I pointed out how many people are killed by drunk drivers. Her retort was that “well it is illegal to drive drunk”! I shut her up with “the last I checked it was illegal to shoot someone too”!

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    perhaps some day we will have an official govt approved news station (1).

    then we won't have to worry that the media is asking the wrong question, reporting news the wrong way, sensationalizing isolated incidents, etc.

    there will only be news reported the "right" way.

    if you were the parent/relative of one of those kids who were gunned down in the second part of this atrocity, would you be asking those same questions?

    i KNOW i would.

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    One of my son's best friends attends VT, and I supervise 3 people there. My first thoughts were of their safety, and thankfully, all are safe. The people I supervise are located in a building right next to the dormitory where the initial deaths occurred.

    My second thoughts were that here we go again, with unrelenting news coverage and more assaults on our rights to possess guns. Every time something like this happens it is not only a terrible tragedy for the people involved, but also for us as law abiding citizens who happen to use guns for our recreation.

    I wish we would hear as much outrage when someone is killed by an automobile.... we should ban them all.

    Keep VT in your thoughts today. As a parent, and particularly one who has a son in college, I can't imagine the horror.

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