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    when it comes to the hips and elbows or the CNM and cerf, there are a lot of letters in there that tell you if the results are good, fair, excellent, and for the CNM results, isn't there a way to tell if the vet did the test, or if you did it your self and sent it in? I thought I read that someplace,and I just wanted to make sure. I haven't had either dog tested for CNM, but will do it, but I am still curious.

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    Hi, the PI at the end of a CNM number means that you did the test yourself or had someone who was not a vet do the test for you. The PIV means that the sample was taken by the vet and certified. Hope this helps

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    So, is it possible to tell by all the numbers, if its clear or not? Is there a site for the hip and elbow descriptions?
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    http://offa.org/ will list OFA and CERF numbers.

    A dog with an elbow number is normal. If there is elbow displaysia, no number is assigned. The number consists of a breed code (e.g., LR), the letters "EL" indicating this is an elbow test, a sequence number, the letter M or F to indicate the dog's gender, a two digit number indicating the dog's age in months, and an indicator of whether the dog is permanently identified (-PI).

    For hips, the number has several elements. In the following number, LR-162859E25F-PI, the "PI" tells you the dog is permanently identified. The 25F tells you that the dog was 25 months old when xrayed and is female. The letter before that, "E", tells you the dog's hips are rated excellent. The first two letters "LR" tell you this is a labrador retriever. The middle part of the number is simply a sequence number. (The example is actually one of my dogs).

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    Detailed information on CERF tests and numbers is at http://www.vmdb.org/cerf.html. The number is simply a breed code (LR) followed by a sequence number. While the OFA site lists the CERF numbers, which are only assigned if the dog is clear of genetic defects, it does not list "breeder option" codes which are also worth looking at. These can be looked up directly on the CERF site which also provides explanations of the different codes.

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    I'm really liking this...so what about when it says elbows, like this example.. Elbows: LR-EL27341F50-PI.

    LR = labrador Retriever
    EL...does this mean elbow?
    PI = permanent identification
    I am guessing the F is for female....so what about the rest of the numbers before the F and after the F???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Debbie H
    I'm really liking this...so what about when it says elbows, like this example.. Elbows: LR-EL27341F50-PI.

    LR = labrador Retriever
    EL...does this mean elbow?

    PI = permanent identification
    I am guessing the F is for female....so what about the rest of the numbers before the F and after the F???

    27341 is a sequence number
    50 is the dog's age in months

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    Thank you very much for the information. I have the sites marked, and will not be a pain in the butt for the rest of the day...

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