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    was looking at an old rftn magazine and was reading the ad about banner-hawkeyes red white and blue. seemed like a pretty awesome dog that achieved alot but dont ever see any dogs out of him.

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    He was awesome. Not many breed to him.
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    Trialing and winning is more important than breeding their dogs for some.
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    Banner's Progeny
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    Thanks Josie.

    He was bred five times to FC's and produced no FC's or AFC's. Maybe that's why.

    He won the Qual at our Cimarron Trial with Jeff Henard running and training him. He won the next one he entered and quickly started placing in AA stakes. Kippy bought him and he quickly became an FC and High Point Open Dog. I remember him being advertised in FT News a lot with her other dogs she owned.
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    He had skin/hair/allergy issues that could have been part of the reason
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    How old was he when he died?
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    Hillman had some great Derby dogs Cutter, Banner , Cappy and I don't thing any of them produced much.. Some Sires produce and some don't it's nothing against the dog it's just how it goes.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd Caswell View Post
    Hillman had some great Derby dogs Cutter, Banner , Cappy and I don't thing any of them produced much.. Some Sires produce and some don't it's nothing against the dog it's just how it goes.....
    Probably a fine example of why you should breed back to the one that produces and not necessarily the hot young offspring ...........i.e. AFC Viking. He was a High Point Derby Dog, that sired two High Point Derby Dogs (that became FC's), and a few other FC AFC dogs.

    Bill said that Viking was one in a million in temperament, intelligence and ability. Interestingly enough, he also said that Cappy and Banner were more like the Dam, than Viking, yet obviously very talented.
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